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This was the plan all along.

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This was planned. The Woo article was intentionally fostered. (I believe) And now we see the plan being perpetrated. Bloom was brought here to put this plan into play. How many games a year will the Cards lose for the next 3 to 5 years? 90? 100? How far down will attendance dwindle? How many more excuses for the teams struggles? Give it 3 to 5 years of losing and we'll magically give you a playoff team. We promise.
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Very sinister, huh.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.

I'm loving the trolls today.
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craviduce wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.
I'm loving the trolls today.
No kidding! The holidays certainly bring out the best, right?
Thanks for all your work and insight this season, Duce. Happy holidays to you and yours.
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CCard wrote: 22 Dec 2025 12:52 pm This was planned. The Woo article was intentionally fostered. (I believe) And now we see the plan being perpetrated. Bloom was brought here to put this plan into play. How many games a year will the Cards lose for the next 3 to 5 years? 90? 100? How far down will attendance dwindle? How many more excuses for the teams struggles? Give it 3 to 5 years of losing and we'll magically give you a playoff team. We promise.
Dumb
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Re: This was the plan all along.

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2023
71 - 91

2024
83 - 79

2025
78 - 84

So you're still not on-board w/the "plan" to change this sinking ship? :?

(And No, BDWJr was never, ever going to throw $200-250M in payroll to fix the problem either)
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Re: This was the plan all along.

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CCard wrote: 22 Dec 2025 12:52 pm This was planned. The Woo article was intentionally fostered. (I believe) And now we see the plan being perpetrated. Bloom was brought here to put this plan into play. How many games a year will the Cards lose for the next 3 to 5 years? 90? 100? How far down will attendance dwindle? How many more excuses for the teams struggles? Give it 3 to 5 years of losing and we'll magically give you a playoff team. We promise.
You mean there was a clear plan, it was reported by Katie Woo a long time ago, they hired Chaim Bloom to evaluate our developmental season, hired him as the future POBO, the front office acknowledged this plan, and now they are following through with the plan?

And you are bragging that you just figured this out? Very impressive.
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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:20 pm
craviduce wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.
I'm loving the trolls today.
No kidding! The holidays certainly bring out the best, right?
Thanks for all your work and insight this season, Duce. Happy holidays to you and yours.
you as well, Satch. Be safe and jolly!!!
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craviduce wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.

I'm loving the trolls today.
Truly is sad. Either some of them are dumb and don't understand the strategy and continually project a different outcome, or they are just trolling for response. I am very impressed that Matt continues dialogue with some of them when they constantly misrepresent what he posts. Guy has a heart of gold.
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Re: This was the plan all along.

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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:30 pm
CCard wrote: 22 Dec 2025 12:52 pm This was planned. The Woo article was intentionally fostered. (I believe) And now we see the plan being perpetrated. Bloom was brought here to put this plan into play. How many games a year will the Cards lose for the next 3 to 5 years? 90? 100? How far down will attendance dwindle? How many more excuses for the teams struggles? Give it 3 to 5 years of losing and we'll magically give you a playoff team. We promise.
You mean there was a clear plan, it was reported by Katie Woo a long time ago, they hired Chaim Bloom to evaluate our developmental season, hired him as the future POBO, the front office acknowledged this plan, and now they are following through with the plan?

And you are bragging that you just figured this out? Very impressive.
:lol:

We’ve got some modern day Sherlocks here.
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CCard wrote: 22 Dec 2025 12:52 pm This was planned. The Woo article was intentionally fostered. (I believe) And now we see the plan being perpetrated. Bloom was brought here to put this plan into play. How many games a year will the Cards lose for the next 3 to 5 years? 90? 100? How far down will attendance dwindle? How many more excuses for the teams struggles? Give it 3 to 5 years of losing and we'll magically give you a playoff team. We promise.
the ceiling for attendance is around 2.3 million with the floor being around 1.5
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Re: This was the plan all along.

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craviduce wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.

I'm loving the trolls today.
And how is this being fixed? By trading off any real talent and contracts for middling Bosox prospects??
You’re the minor leaguer expert…..what REAL talent has been returned? Injured prospects? A couple losing record 5.00ERA pitchers??
I know all here want this fantasy of Bloom scoring on every prospect exchange for good ML players , he’ll pull rabbits out of hats when drafting, and every lost soul current minor leaguer who needs the secret sauce to unlock their All-star potential will see that finally come to fruition
And presto Cheap All-stars running all around Busch by what……’27.
This has never occurred in modern Cards history. All winning we’ve seen has been a very healthy supply of FA or traded Vets…SPENDING MONEY
This notion that drafting and improving player development can’t align with fielding a competitive ML team is hilarious.
Talent was here before these trades and could’ve been supplemented on offense and pitching. SPEND NOW
But this story is being told that this cache of top prospects will land here on Santas sleigh and launch this never seen before REBUILD,
Again show me the names to take this team to the playoffs, did we just receive them and aren they still out there to be had??
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Goldfan wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:30 pm
craviduce wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.

I'm loving the trolls today.
And how is this being fixed? By trading off any real talent and contracts for middling Bosox prospects??
You’re the minor leaguer expert…..what REAL talent has been returned? Injured prospects? A couple losing record 5.00ERA pitchers??
I know all here want this fantasy of Bloom scoring on every prospect exchange for good ML players , he’ll pull rabbits out of hats when drafting, and every lost soul current minor leaguer who needs the secret sauce to unlock their All-star potential will see that finally come to fruition
And presto Cheap All-stars running all around Busch by what……’27.
This has never occurred in modern Cards history. All winning we’ve seen has been a very healthy supply of FA or traded Vets…SPENDING MONEY
This notion that drafting and improving player development can’t align with fielding a competitive ML team is hilarious.
Talent was here before these trades and could’ve been supplemented on offense and pitching. SPEND NOW
But this story is being told that this cache of top prospects will land here on Santas sleigh and launch this never seen before REBUILD,
Again show me the names to take this team to the playoffs, did we just receive them and aren they still out there to be had??
They're not going to spend. No amount of ranting or caps locks is going to change that.

They're going forward with a small market model.
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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:40 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:30 pm
craviduce wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.

I'm loving the trolls today.
And how is this being fixed? By trading off any real talent and contracts for middling Bosox prospects??
You’re the minor leaguer expert…..what REAL talent has been returned? Injured prospects? A couple losing record 5.00ERA pitchers??
I know all here want this fantasy of Bloom scoring on every prospect exchange for good ML players , he’ll pull rabbits out of hats when drafting, and every lost soul current minor leaguer who needs the secret sauce to unlock their All-star potential will see that finally come to fruition
And presto Cheap All-stars running all around Busch by what……’27.
This has never occurred in modern Cards history. All winning we’ve seen has been a very healthy supply of FA or traded Vets…SPENDING MONEY
This notion that drafting and improving player development can’t align with fielding a competitive ML team is hilarious.
Talent was here before these trades and could’ve been supplemented on offense and pitching. SPEND NOW
But this story is being told that this cache of top prospects will land here on Santas sleigh and launch this never seen before REBUILD,
Again show me the names to take this team to the playoffs, did we just receive them and aren they still out there to be had??
They're not going to spend. No amount of ranting or caps locks is going to change that.

They're going forward with a small market model.
Well exactly. It’s reset salary dump…..and it won’t go back. Thankyou and Amen
Let me know the last small market low spending team to win the WS
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Goldfan wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:47 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:40 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:30 pm
craviduce wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.

I'm loving the trolls today.
And how is this being fixed? By trading off any real talent and contracts for middling Bosox prospects??
You’re the minor leaguer expert…..what REAL talent has been returned? Injured prospects? A couple losing record 5.00ERA pitchers??
I know all here want this fantasy of Bloom scoring on every prospect exchange for good ML players , he’ll pull rabbits out of hats when drafting, and every lost soul current minor leaguer who needs the secret sauce to unlock their All-star potential will see that finally come to fruition
And presto Cheap All-stars running all around Busch by what……’27.
This has never occurred in modern Cards history. All winning we’ve seen has been a very healthy supply of FA or traded Vets…SPENDING MONEY
This notion that drafting and improving player development can’t align with fielding a competitive ML team is hilarious.
Talent was here before these trades and could’ve been supplemented on offense and pitching. SPEND NOW
But this story is being told that this cache of top prospects will land here on Santas sleigh and launch this never seen before REBUILD,
Again show me the names to take this team to the playoffs, did we just receive them and aren they still out there to be had??
They're not going to spend. No amount of ranting or caps locks is going to change that.

They're going forward with a small market model.
Well exactly. It’s reset salary dump…..and it won’t go back. Thankyou and Amen
Let me know the last small market low spending team to win the WS
Dude, I've been trying to tell people for two years that this "reset" is code for a reset to a small market model. People just haven't wanted to hear it, and they don't want to believe it.

They want no payroll obligations running into the new CBA. They brought in guys from Tampa and Cleveland to reset this thing, and a pitching development guy from Seattle so they can self fund their rotation without having to go get top of the rotation guys on the market.
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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:51 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:47 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:40 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Dec 2025 14:30 pm
craviduce wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 22 Dec 2025 13:09 pm Very sinister, huh.
what we were doing to the Front Office, Minor Leagues, Major League team since 2020 was called "winning"... I guess :lol: How dare we try to fix the broken situation.

I'm loving the trolls today.
And how is this being fixed? By trading off any real talent and contracts for middling Bosox prospects??
You’re the minor leaguer expert…..what REAL talent has been returned? Injured prospects? A couple losing record 5.00ERA pitchers??
I know all here want this fantasy of Bloom scoring on every prospect exchange for good ML players , he’ll pull rabbits out of hats when drafting, and every lost soul current minor leaguer who needs the secret sauce to unlock their All-star potential will see that finally come to fruition
And presto Cheap All-stars running all around Busch by what……’27.
This has never occurred in modern Cards history. All winning we’ve seen has been a very healthy supply of FA or traded Vets…SPENDING MONEY
This notion that drafting and improving player development can’t align with fielding a competitive ML team is hilarious.
Talent was here before these trades and could’ve been supplemented on offense and pitching. SPEND NOW
But this story is being told that this cache of top prospects will land here on Santas sleigh and launch this never seen before REBUILD,
Again show me the names to take this team to the playoffs, did we just receive them and aren they still out there to be had??
They're not going to spend. No amount of ranting or caps locks is going to change that.

They're going forward with a small market model.
Well exactly. It’s reset salary dump…..and it won’t go back. Thankyou and Amen
Let me know the last small market low spending team to win the WS
Dude, I've been trying to tell people for two years that this "reset" is code for a reset to a small market model. People just haven't wanted to hear it, and they don't want to believe it.

They want no payroll obligations running into the new CBA. They brought in guys from Tampa and Cleveland to reset this thing, and a pitching development guy from Seattle so they can self fund their rotation without having to go get top of the rotation guys on the market.
Those REBUILD …..spend big again in ‘27 posters aren’t going to like you much
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