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How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

RE:
C. Bloom

Red Sox minor league system was the worst in baseball (dead last in 2019), he re-built it into a top 5 by 2023, very much like he's done to ours!

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:12 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

RE:
C. Bloom

Red Sox minor league system was the worst in baseball (dead last in 2019), he re-built it into a top 5 by 2023, very much like he's done to ours!

DING...DING .....DING......WE HAVE A WINNER!

This is the most optimistic I've been about our future since the early Whitey years!

So when Donny heads there…..what can we expect back?

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:12 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

RE:
C. Bloom

Red Sox minor league system was the worst in baseball (dead last in 2019), he re-built it into a top 5 by 2023, very much like he's done to ours!

So at some point he’s gone to be able to start trading all these surplus prospects for near all star level vets like Gray and Contreras and get other teams to pay for some of their salaries and our roster will get instantly better? Is that the LT plan ?

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

You're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

Reminds me of the late Jocketty era. Cleaning out the largesse on the farm to get ML pitchers for the here and now. That can lead to the 2007 Cardinal situation where the pantry was bone dry. Boston has money but their sustainability has always been questionable.

zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

You're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".

They are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.

zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

You're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".

No, I’m just throwing it out there that there’s on way in Hades that the Sox have a large stable of elite pitching prospects and even a fatter chance that they’re sending those to STL

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:46 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:12 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

RE:
C. Bloom

Red Sox minor league system was the worst in baseball (dead last in 2019), he re-built it into a top 5 by 2023, very much like he's done to ours!

So at some point he’s gone to be able to start trading all these surplus prospects for near all star level vets like Gray and Contreras and get other teams to pay for some of their salaries and our roster will get instantly better? Is that the LT plan ?

Not the plan carp.

Like buying lottery tickets the hope is you find one or two "gems" among all the prospects, one's who will add to the young core of M. Winn, JJW, L. Doyle etal.

By then (2027/28) BDWJr will then open the wallet and Bloom can then either sign free agents or trade from his (hopefully) hoard of prospects for QUALITY VETERANS who are 8-10 years younger than S. Gray & WillyC (think Walt bringing in C. Carpenter, S. Rolen, E. Renteria and J. Edmonds type players in their primes).

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:59 am

zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

You're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".

They are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.

You mean Mathews, McGreevy, Thomson, Hence, Rom, Roby haven’t been adequate “hope for the future” the last couple years?? Now we have a different crop of mostly middling or oft injured bodies to dream of Cy Youngs…..

casey1024 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:38 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:12 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

RE:
C. Bloom

Red Sox minor league system was the worst in baseball (dead last in 2019), he re-built it into a top 5 by 2023, very much like he's done to ours!

DING...DING .....DING......WE HAVE A WINNER!

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:03 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:46 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:12 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

RE:
C. Bloom

Red Sox minor league system was the worst in baseball (dead last in 2019), he re-built it into a top 5 by 2023, very much like he's done to ours!

So at some point he’s gone to be able to start trading all these surplus prospects for near all star level vets like Gray and Contreras and get other teams to pay for some of their salaries and our roster will get instantly better? Is that the LT plan ?

Not the plan carp.

Like buying lottery tickets the hope is you find one or two "gems" among all the prospects, one's who will add to the young core of M. Winn, JJW, L. Doyle etal.

By then (2027/28) BDWJr will then open the wallet and Bloom can then either sign free agents or trade from his (hopefully) hoard of prospects for QUALITY VETERANS who are 8-10 years younger than S. Gray & WillyC (think Walt bringing in C. Carpenter, S. Rolen, E. Renteria and J. Edmonds type players in their primes).

Or instead of pocketing 200-250mil by ‘28…..BDW could’ve spent now and supplemented the current core MLB team, still receive some middling Trade prospects for Donny, Bloom continues to draft and develop minors…..
But the route taken SAVES BDW the money typed above, guarantees nothing, and puts off his need to spend years off in the future. Because he will need to spend to be competitive whether in ‘26 or ‘28-29…..

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:10 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:03 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:46 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:12 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

RE:
C. Bloom

Red Sox minor league system was the worst in baseball (dead last in 2019), he re-built it into a top 5 by 2023, very much like he's done to ours!

So at some point he’s gone to be able to start trading all these surplus prospects for near all star level vets like Gray and Contreras and get other teams to pay for some of their salaries and our roster will get instantly better? Is that the LT plan ?

Not the plan carp.

Like buying lottery tickets the hope is you find one or two "gems" among all the prospects, one's who will add to the young core of M. Winn, JJW, L. Doyle etal.

By then (2027/28) BDWJr will then open the wallet and Bloom can then either sign free agents or trade from his (hopefully) hoard of prospects for QUALITY VETERANS who are 8-10 years younger than S. Gray & WillyC (think Walt bringing in C. Carpenter, S. Rolen, E. Renteria and J. Edmonds type players in their primes).

Or instead of pocketing 200-250mil by ‘28…..BDW could’ve spent now and supplemented the current core MLB team, still receive some middling Trade prospects for Donny, Bloom continues to draft and develop minors…..
But the route taken SAVES BDW the money typed above, guarantees nothing, and puts off his need to spend years off in the future. Because he will need to spend to be competitive whether in ‘26 or ‘28-29…..

That would've been great GF............. as I've said all along that unlike Mo, C. Bloom is smart enough to walk (re-build the minor league system) and chew gum (still field a competitive team in 2026).

But unfortunately he doesn't control the payroll, BDWJr does and he's made it clear since 2024 that he's going to reduce payroll before the CBA expires after next season.

I think this was his plan all along.

After the new CBA is in place, then let's hope he re-opens the wallet.

(And we're not going to receive some "middling" prospect for Donny, he should bring back your "gem" )

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:04 am

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:59 am

zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:

Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita

Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!

You're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".

They are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.

You mean Mathews, McGreevy, Thomson, Hence, Rom, Roby haven’t been adequate “hope for the future” the last couple years?? Now we have a different crop of mostly middling or oft injured bodies to dream of Cy Youngs…..

Relax fella.... Try not to act like you know stuff. There is no evidence yet.