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AnExParrot
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Re: Why?
May as well be asking "why does the toast always fall butter side down?"
Re: Why?
Too much pressure on the top prospects maybe.
They aren't able to mentally adjust to the expectations.
The successful group you mentioned had no major expectations.
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sikeston bulldog2
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Re: Why?
Very simple. It has nothing to do with the human. It’s all about natural numbers.
Formula- put as many into the system as it can hold. Let ‘em play. Thin them out. Continue the process until complete. End state- 3 make it, three don’t. As to who by name, not relevant.
Formula- put as many into the system as it can hold. Let ‘em play. Thin them out. Continue the process until complete. End state- 3 make it, three don’t. As to who by name, not relevant.
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scoutyjones2
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Re: Why?
C'mon...long history of prospects failing. Most do
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sikeston bulldog2
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Re: Why?
Attrition. As you noted. Long history of failure. Success knows no name or face.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 07:51 am Very simple. It has nothing to do with the human. It’s all about natural numbers.
Formula- put as many into the system as it can hold. Let ‘em play. Thin them out. Continue the process until complete. End state- 3 make it, three don’t. As to who by name, not relevant.
Only about 10 to 15 percent of players who reach the minor leagues actually make it to the majors. This statistic highlights the competitive nature of the sport and the rigorous standards that players must meet to succeed. With that mind is much more difficult to become a good Major League player.
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I disagree.Cranny wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:34 amI think Winn was pretty highly regarded, and Herrera was touted as our catcher of the future.
Walker, Gorman and Carlson were all ranked at least in the top 20.
There were expectations.
Hell, Carlson was compared to Beltran.
Gorman to Harper.
Walker to frigg'in Dave Winfield.
It was ridiculous.
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sikeston bulldog2
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Good write.OldRed wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:44 amsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 07:51 am Very simple. It has nothing to do with the human. It’s all about natural numbers.
Formula- put as many into the system as it can hold. Let ‘em play. Thin them out. Continue the process until complete. End state- 3 make it, three don’t. As to who by name, not relevant.
Only about 10 to 15 percent of players who reach the minor leagues actually make it to the majors. This statistic highlights the competitive nature of the sport and the rigorous standards that players must meet to succeed. With that mind is much more difficult to become a good Major League player.
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But the % of draftees that make the majors is higher for 1st and 2nd round draftees.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:45 amGood write.OldRed wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:44 amsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 07:51 am Very simple. It has nothing to do with the human. It’s all about natural numbers.
Formula- put as many into the system as it can hold. Let ‘em play. Thin them out. Continue the process until complete. End state- 3 make it, three don’t. As to who by name, not relevant.
Only about 10 to 15 percent of players who reach the minor leagues actually make it to the majors. This statistic highlights the competitive nature of the sport and the rigorous standards that players must meet to succeed. With that mind is much more difficult to become a good Major League player.
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rockondlouie
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Re: Why?
Dah!
Winn (great glove/arm), Burleson (solid hitting skills) and Hererra (elite hitting skills) are naturally talented and even Mo's horrible minor league (lack of ) development system couldn't harm their natural skills.
Carlson, Walker and Gorman all three have many flaws in their game and were in need of a C. Bloom like minor league player development system to even have a chance of being (L-T) successful in MLB.
They lacked the tools in their tool box to overcome when the league made adjustments after getting a book on their weaknesses.
Pretty simple
BDWJr/Mo FAILED the minor league system terribly and now are paying the price for it.
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AnExParrot
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And that is heavily weighted by early first rounders.Cranny wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:52 amBut the % of draftees that make the majors is higher for 1st and 2nd round draftees.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:45 amGood write.OldRed wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:44 amsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 07:51 am Very simple. It has nothing to do with the human. It’s all about natural numbers.
Formula- put as many into the system as it can hold. Let ‘em play. Thin them out. Continue the process until complete. End state- 3 make it, three don’t. As to who by name, not relevant.
Only about 10 to 15 percent of players who reach the minor leagues actually make it to the majors. This statistic highlights the competitive nature of the sport and the rigorous standards that players must meet to succeed. With that mind is much more difficult to become a good Major League player.
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sikeston bulldog2
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Ok. That’s a maybe. It has nothing to do with prospect saturation. There are only a few 1’and2’s. Much greater numbers in lower positions.Cranny wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:52 amBut the % of draftees that make the majors is higher for 1st and 2nd round draftees.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:45 amGood write.OldRed wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:44 amsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 07:51 am Very simple. It has nothing to do with the human. It’s all about natural numbers.
Formula- put as many into the system as it can hold. Let ‘em play. Thin them out. Continue the process until complete. End state- 3 make it, three don’t. As to who by name, not relevant.
Only about 10 to 15 percent of players who reach the minor leagues actually make it to the majors. This statistic highlights the competitive nature of the sport and the rigorous standards that players must meet to succeed. With that mind is much more difficult to become a good Major League player.
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Cranny wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 08:34 amI think Winn was pretty highly regarded, and Herrera was touted as our catcher of the future.
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Poor player development and talent evaluation.