STLtoday.com

TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:48 pm So you're telling me there's a chance!


Will Gio
Today at 12:42 PM
There was an headline reported by Katie Woo that the Mariners and Giants are now "front-runners" for Brendan Donovan. A). Is that something you've been able to confirm in your reporting? and B). Is it possible that a deal with someone like JoJo Romero (and Donovan), net a package that includes Ryan Sloan (SEA) or Bryce Eldridge (SF)?

Derrick Goold
Mod
Today at 12:44 PM
A) I am always reluctant to do this ... but what the heck ... here goes ... I reported last week (Tuesday) that the San Francisco Giants and Seattle Mariners had joined the Royals as among the most persistent teams looking to trade for Donovan. That information appeared at StlToday on Tuesday and in Wednesday's newspaper. I reported on that as soon as I could confirm it, and the info has been there available to readers.
B) The Mariners have shown interest in Romero. The Seattle Times first reported that, and I've been able to confirm that and then pass that info along to readers. That would, yes, increase the return from the Mariners in this case. At this point, Eldridge has come up more as a possible and realistic trade target from the Giants than Sloan. Both would be a strong return, for sure. And at least in Eldridge's case, part of the reason the name is surfacing is because of the Marte trade talk, too.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:50 pm

TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:48 pm So you're telling me there's a chance!


Will Gio
Today at 12:42 PM
There was an headline reported by Katie Woo that the Mariners and Giants are now "front-runners" for Brendan Donovan. A). Is that something you've been able to confirm in your reporting? and B). Is it possible that a deal with someone like JoJo Romero (and Donovan), net a package that includes Ryan Sloan (SEA) or Bryce Eldridge (SF)?

Derrick Goold
Mod
Today at 12:44 PM
A) I am always reluctant to do this ... but what the heck ... here goes ... I reported last week (Tuesday) that the San Francisco Giants and Seattle Mariners had joined the Royals as among the most persistent teams looking to trade for Donovan. That information appeared at StlToday on Tuesday and in Wednesday's newspaper. I reported on that as soon as I could confirm it, and the info has been there available to readers.
B) The Mariners have shown interest in Romero. The Seattle Times first reported that, and I've been able to confirm that and then pass that info along to readers. That would, yes, increase the return from the Mariners in this case. At this point, Eldridge has come up more as a possible and realistic trade target from the Giants than Sloan. Both would be a strong return, for sure. And at least in Eldridge's case, part of the reason the name is surfacing is because of the Marte trade talk, too.

Well, I hate the Giants farm system- but he is the one.

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:57 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:50 pm

TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 16:48 pm So you're telling me there's a chance!


Will Gio
Today at 12:42 PM
There was an headline reported by Katie Woo that the Mariners and Giants are now "front-runners" for Brendan Donovan. A). Is that something you've been able to confirm in your reporting? and B). Is it possible that a deal with someone like JoJo Romero (and Donovan), net a package that includes Ryan Sloan (SEA) or Bryce Eldridge (SF)?

Derrick Goold
Mod
Today at 12:44 PM
A) I am always reluctant to do this ... but what the heck ... here goes ... I reported last week (Tuesday) that the San Francisco Giants and Seattle Mariners had joined the Royals as among the most persistent teams looking to trade for Donovan. That information appeared at StlToday on Tuesday and in Wednesday's newspaper. I reported on that as soon as I could confirm it, and the info has been there available to readers.
B) The Mariners have shown interest in Romero. The Seattle Times first reported that, and I've been able to confirm that and then pass that info along to readers. That would, yes, increase the return from the Mariners in this case. At this point, Eldridge has come up more as a possible and realistic trade target from the Giants than Sloan. Both would be a strong return, for sure. And at least in Eldridge's case, part of the reason the name is surfacing is because of the Marte trade talk, too.

Well, I hate the Giants farm system- but he is the one.

Yessir.

And in retrospect. I like Kilen better than I showed yesterday. I hold firm on Whisenhunt, not fan at all. But I was advocating the rise of Conrad and Kilen last Spring before their injuries. Kilen came back and played in the Regionals...maybe he was still a bit gimpy? Not sure.

Kilen is going to be good bat...how good? I don't know.

If we can snag Eldridge instead? Like I said... "YESSIR!!!"

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:38 pm it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:48 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:38 pm it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

If the Cardinals did get Eldridge. It might be more prudent to trade Contreras and have Wetherholt, Eldridge, Winn, Herrera and Burleson as core players. Burleson is a lot more of an MLB sure thing than Benage is.

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:38 pm it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:48 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:38 pm it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

If the Cardinals did get Eldridge. It might be more prudent to trade Contreras and have Wetherholt, Eldridge, Winn, Herrera and Burleson as core players. Burleson is a lot more of an MLB sure thing than Benage is.

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:57 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:38 pm it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

And that opens up so many doors/windows.

VS2 can be moved for...pitching maybe? I don't see a future in the starting lineup for VS2, unless he can somehow stop the Grounders to 2B/1B and soft lineouts/pop outs to the left side.

Contreras can be moved for more RH batters, preferably with power in the Minors...or starting RHP in the mid minors....both are sore needs.

Getting that young core now could be a steal. Instead of trading them all over the next 2 or so seasons. I don't see VS2, Burleson, and Contreras figuring into future when we're ready to win. Contreras' contract will be done, and Burleson/VS2's output won't match their Arb years/costs. Do it now, set up the Core.

Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 18:09 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:57 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:38 pm it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

And that opens up so many doors/windows.

VS2 can be moved for...pitching maybe? I don't see a future in the starting lineup for VS2, unless he can somehow stop the Grounders to 2B/1B and soft lineouts/pop outs to the left side.

Contreras can be moved for more RH batters, preferably with power in the Minors...or starting RHP in the mid minors....both are sore needs.

Getting that young core now could be a steal. Instead of trading them all over the next 2 or so seasons. I don't see VS2, Burleson, and Contreras figuring into future when we're ready to win. Contreras' contract will be done, and Burleson/VS2's output won't match their Arb years/costs. Do it now, set up the Core.

As usual, you underestimate Burleson. He's going to continue to make progress. IMO.

TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 18:18 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 18:09 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:57 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 17:38 pm it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

And that opens up so many doors/windows.

VS2 can be moved for...pitching maybe? I don't see a future in the starting lineup for VS2, unless he can somehow stop the Grounders to 2B/1B and soft lineouts/pop outs to the left side.

Contreras can be moved for more RH batters, preferably with power in the Minors...or starting RHP in the mid minors....both are sore needs.

Getting that young core now could be a steal. Instead of trading them all over the next 2 or so seasons. I don't see VS2, Burleson, and Contreras figuring into future when we're ready to win. Contreras' contract will be done, and Burleson/VS2's output won't match their Arb years/costs. Do it now, set up the Core.

As usual, you underestimate Burleson. He's going to continue to make progress. IMO.

Burleson can hit...a bit for average, a bit for OBP. He has some power. I like him, I'm not dogging him, but he is extremely tradeable if you can get a younger player with more tools.