From D. Goold Chat- Eldridge SF Giants

[TraveledLessRoad]

So you're telling me there's a chance!


Will Gio
Today at 12:42 PM
There was an headline reported by Katie Woo that the Mariners and Giants are now "front-runners" for Brendan Donovan. A). Is that something you've been able to confirm in your reporting? and B). Is it possible that a deal with someone like JoJo Romero (and Donovan), net a package that includes Ryan Sloan (SEA) or Bryce Eldridge (SF)?

Derrick Goold
Mod
Today at 12:44 PM
A) I am always reluctant to do this ... but what the heck ... here goes ... I reported last week (Tuesday) that the San Francisco Giants and Seattle Mariners had joined the Royals as among the most persistent teams looking to trade for Donovan. That information appeared at StlToday on Tuesday and in Wednesday's newspaper. I reported on that as soon as I could confirm it, and the info has been there available to readers.
B) The Mariners have shown interest in Romero. The Seattle Times first reported that, and I've been able to confirm that and then pass that info along to readers. That would, yes, increase the return from the Mariners in this case. At this point, Eldridge has come up more as a possible and realistic trade target from the Giants than Sloan. Both would be a strong return, for sure. And at least in Eldridge's case, part of the reason the name is surfacing is because of the Marte trade talk, too.

[Talkin' Baseball]

So you're telling me there's a chance!


Will Gio
Today at 12:42 PM
There was an headline reported by Katie Woo that the Mariners and Giants are now "front-runners" for Brendan Donovan. A). Is that something you've been able to confirm in your reporting? and B). Is it possible that a deal with someone like JoJo Romero (and Donovan), net a package that includes Ryan Sloan (SEA) or Bryce Eldridge (SF)?

Derrick Goold
Mod
Today at 12:44 PM
A) I am always reluctant to do this ... but what the heck ... here goes ... I reported last week (Tuesday) that the San Francisco Giants and Seattle Mariners had joined the Royals as among the most persistent teams looking to trade for Donovan. That information appeared at StlToday on Tuesday and in Wednesday's newspaper. I reported on that as soon as I could confirm it, and the info has been there available to readers.
B) The Mariners have shown interest in Romero. The Seattle Times first reported that, and I've been able to confirm that and then pass that info along to readers. That would, yes, increase the return from the Mariners in this case. At this point, Eldridge has come up more as a possible and realistic trade target from the Giants than Sloan. Both would be a strong return, for sure. And at least in Eldridge's case, part of the reason the name is surfacing is because of the Marte trade talk, too.

Well, I hate the Giants farm system- but he is the one.

[craviduce]

So you're telling me there's a chance!


Will Gio
Today at 12:42 PM
There was an headline reported by Katie Woo that the Mariners and Giants are now "front-runners" for Brendan Donovan. A). Is that something you've been able to confirm in your reporting? and B). Is it possible that a deal with someone like JoJo Romero (and Donovan), net a package that includes Ryan Sloan (SEA) or Bryce Eldridge (SF)?

Derrick Goold
Mod
Today at 12:44 PM
A) I am always reluctant to do this ... but what the heck ... here goes ... I reported last week (Tuesday) that the San Francisco Giants and Seattle Mariners had joined the Royals as among the most persistent teams looking to trade for Donovan. That information appeared at StlToday on Tuesday and in Wednesday's newspaper. I reported on that as soon as I could confirm it, and the info has been there available to readers.
B) The Mariners have shown interest in Romero. The Seattle Times first reported that, and I've been able to confirm that and then pass that info along to readers. That would, yes, increase the return from the Mariners in this case. At this point, Eldridge has come up more as a possible and realistic trade target from the Giants than Sloan. Both would be a strong return, for sure. And at least in Eldridge's case, part of the reason the name is surfacing is because of the Marte trade talk, too.

Well, I hate the Giants farm system- but he is the one.

Yessir.

And in retrospect. I like Kilen better than I showed yesterday. I hold firm on Whisenhunt, not fan at all. But I was advocating the rise of Conrad and Kilen last Spring before their injuries. Kilen came back and played in the Regionals...maybe he was still a bit gimpy? Not sure.

Kilen is going to be good bat...how good? I don't know.

If we can snag Eldridge instead? Like I said... "YESSIR!!!"

[craviduce]

So you're telling me there's a chance!


Will Gio
Today at 12:42 PM
There was an headline reported by Katie Woo that the Mariners and Giants are now "front-runners" for Brendan Donovan. A). Is that something you've been able to confirm in your reporting? and B). Is it possible that a deal with someone like JoJo Romero (and Donovan), net a package that includes Ryan Sloan (SEA) or Bryce Eldridge (SF)?

Derrick Goold
Mod
Today at 12:44 PM
A) I am always reluctant to do this ... but what the heck ... here goes ... I reported last week (Tuesday) that the San Francisco Giants and Seattle Mariners had joined the Royals as among the most persistent teams looking to trade for Donovan. That information appeared at StlToday on Tuesday and in Wednesday's newspaper. I reported on that as soon as I could confirm it, and the info has been there available to readers.
B) The Mariners have shown interest in Romero. The Seattle Times first reported that, and I've been able to confirm that and then pass that info along to readers. That would, yes, increase the return from the Mariners in this case. At this point, Eldridge has come up more as a possible and realistic trade target from the Giants than Sloan. Both would be a strong return, for sure. And at least in Eldridge's case, part of the reason the name is surfacing is because of the Marte trade talk, too.

Well, I hate the Giants farm system- but he is the one.

Yessir.

And in retrospect. I like Kilen better than I showed yesterday. I hold firm on Whisenhunt, not fan at all. But I was advocating the rise of Conrad and Kilen last Spring before their injuries. Kilen came back and played in the Regionals...maybe he was still a bit gimpy? Not sure.

Kilen is going to be good bat...how good? I don't know.

If we can snag Eldridge instead? Like I said... "YESSIR!!!"

and in retrospect...if we did pull off that exact trade with Seattle of Montes and Cinjinte, it wouldn't be the end of the world. Maybe Montes can get the pitch recognition under control? He's "young, he's only __"....I hate saying that and hearing that, but it's true.

Both will play in the majors eventually...so that would make the trade a win

Note ~ Sloan remains my preference.

[TraveledLessRoad]

Mine too, Duce. I didn't copy and paste that portion of Goold's response. But, he said something to the effect of, "as of now, the Mariners still aren't keen on trading Sloan."

[C-Unit]

Getting Eldridge at this point in his career would be similar to when the (female canine animals, especially dogs) in blue got Rizzo from SD. Would be a great move.

I certainly see the fit for Donovan in SF. I just assume more would have to be added on our part. Donovan's great, but they're gonna give up Eldridge for two years of Donovan?

I read what Goold wrote as though the DBacks are the ones calling for Eldridge, specifically in Marte talks. SF turning to us instead would imply that that's a puke point.

[TraveledLessRoad]

Yeah, I think that was a good way to interpret it. Goold was essentially saying that due to the fact SF was willing to discuss him for Marte, meant that they would at least consider trading him. He didn't necessarily say that would carry-over to conversations with the Cards and Donny. It's all just speculative. But, Donny, Romero, +? maybe then?

[craviduce]

it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

[Shady]

it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

If the Cardinals did get Eldridge. It might be more prudent to trade Contreras and have Wetherholt, Eldridge, Winn, Herrera and Burleson as core players. Burleson is a lot more of an MLB sure thing than Benage is.

[Mort Gage]

it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

If the Cardinals did get Eldridge. It might be more prudent to trade Contreras and have Wetherholt, Eldridge, Winn, Herrera and Burleson as core players. Burleson is a lot more of an MLB sure thing than Benage is.

Burleson is a complementary player unless if he adds something else to his game. I'd trade him for Benge.

[craviduce]

it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

And that opens up so many doors/windows.

VS2 can be moved for...pitching maybe? I don't see a future in the starting lineup for VS2, unless he can somehow stop the Grounders to 2B/1B and soft lineouts/pop outs to the left side.

Contreras can be moved for more RH batters, preferably with power in the Minors...or starting RHP in the mid minors....both are sore needs.

Getting that young core now could be a steal. Instead of trading them all over the next 2 or so seasons. I don't see VS2, Burleson, and Contreras figuring into future when we're ready to win. Contreras' contract will be done, and Burleson/VS2's output won't match their Arb years/costs. Do it now, set up the Core.

[NYCardsFan]

it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

If the Cardinals did get Eldridge. It might be more prudent to trade Contreras and have Wetherholt, Eldridge, Winn, Herrera and Burleson as core players. Burleson is a lot more of an MLB sure thing than Benage is.

I agree, Burleson is “a lot more of an MLB sure thing” than a player who doesn’t exist.

And by your definition, Contreras is “more of an MLB sure thing” than Burleson, yet that doesn’t seem to stop you from trying to get rid of Contreras by any means possible to clear the way for Burleson.

[Shady]

it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

And that opens up so many doors/windows.

VS2 can be moved for...pitching maybe? I don't see a future in the starting lineup for VS2, unless he can somehow stop the Grounders to 2B/1B and soft lineouts/pop outs to the left side.

Contreras can be moved for more RH batters, preferably with power in the Minors...or starting RHP in the mid minors....both are sore needs.

Getting that young core now could be a steal. Instead of trading them all over the next 2 or so seasons. I don't see VS2, Burleson, and Contreras figuring into future when we're ready to win. Contreras' contract will be done, and Burleson/VS2's output won't match their Arb years/costs. Do it now, set up the Core.

As usual, you underestimate Burleson. He's going to continue to make progress. IMO.

[ScotchMIrish]

Gorman had similar numbers in milb. Swing for the fences and strike out a lot. Eldridge is very young and could improve significantly. Probably a couple years away from St Louis.

Interesting.

[TraveledLessRoad]

it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

And that opens up so many doors/windows.

VS2 can be moved for...pitching maybe? I don't see a future in the starting lineup for VS2, unless he can somehow stop the Grounders to 2B/1B and soft lineouts/pop outs to the left side.

Contreras can be moved for more RH batters, preferably with power in the Minors...or starting RHP in the mid minors....both are sore needs.

Getting that young core now could be a steal. Instead of trading them all over the next 2 or so seasons. I don't see VS2, Burleson, and Contreras figuring into future when we're ready to win. Contreras' contract will be done, and Burleson/VS2's output won't match their Arb years/costs. Do it now, set up the Core.

As usual, you underestimate Burleson. He's going to continue to make progress. IMO.

Burleson can hit...a bit for average, a bit for OBP. He has some power. I like him, I'm not dogging him, but he is extremely tradeable if you can get a younger player with more tools.

[Shady]

it's a pipedream, but landing Eldridge... And then jettisoning Burleson to the Mets for Benge (BTV says they lineup, or close to it) You're setting up 3 young, core players (Wetherholt, Eldridge, and Benge) on the same Control Timeline. That will get the fan base excited...gets me excited

Drop Nado to anyone who's willing part with some IFA pool money, pay 1/3 of his remaining contract...maybe we can get an extreme lottery ticket from Low A. The move has always been about freeing up 3B, not getting Top Prospects for Nado. You have to live with the return. We're getting Luna anyways, #8 IFA, so why not get some more dollars for another Top 10 splash?

And that opens up so many doors/windows.

VS2 can be moved for...pitching maybe? I don't see a future in the starting lineup for VS2, unless he can somehow stop the Grounders to 2B/1B and soft lineouts/pop outs to the left side.

Contreras can be moved for more RH batters, preferably with power in the Minors...or starting RHP in the mid minors....both are sore needs.

Getting that young core now could be a steal. Instead of trading them all over the next 2 or so seasons. I don't see VS2, Burleson, and Contreras figuring into future when we're ready to win. Contreras' contract will be done, and Burleson/VS2's output won't match their Arb years/costs. Do it now, set up the Core.

As usual, you underestimate Burleson. He's going to continue to make progress. IMO.

Burleson can hit...a bit for average, a bit for OBP. He has some power. I like him, I'm not dogging him, but he is extremely tradeable if you can get a younger player with more tools.