What the [fork] are you doing Fowler ?

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What the [fork] are you doing Fowler ?

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That was one of the laziest and stupid plays of the season
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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:39 pm That was one of the laziest and stupid plays of the season
In a season of stupid and lazy plays. I can’t believe his drop off from last season.
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Absolut wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:53 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:39 pm That was one of the laziest and stupid plays of the season
In a season of stupid and lazy plays. I can’t believe his drop off from last season.
I can. It's why smart GMs don't extend vets for a few months of exceptional hockey when they haven't proven they can do it for more than a few months.
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The whole teams playing like chit. How's this Fowlers fault?
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I can't imagine thinking this team should not have signed Fowler, that is just crazy to me.
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HighStick wrote: 10 Dec 2025 00:22 am The whole teams playing like chit. How's this Fowlers fault?
Because no one can currently blame Kyrou, so we need a new guy.
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blackinkbiz wrote: 09 Dec 2025 23:03 pm
Absolut wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:53 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:39 pm That was one of the laziest and stupid plays of the season
In a season of stupid and lazy plays. I can’t believe his drop off from last season.
I can. It's why smart GMs don't extend vets for a few months of exceptional hockey when they haven't proven they can do it for more than a few months.
He’s played over 1000 games. He’s proven he can do it.
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netboy65 wrote: 10 Dec 2025 05:45 am
HighStick wrote: 10 Dec 2025 00:22 am The whole teams playing like chit. How's this Fowlers fault?
Because no one can currently blame Kyrou, so we need a new guy.
You win this thread!
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What happens when you make an older player play more minutes, carry a weak player on the other side, and compress the game schedule for the Olympics?

Further....
Everyone should immediately discount the team's strong play at the end of last year. As I have mentioned many times, February, March and April is Army's killing season. His team's are very happy to win the games when the other teams don't care to win.

PREDICTION:
The Blues will again have a win streak at the end of the season. They are quite happy to spoil their draft position while other teams don't play that way. Florida lost 7 of their last 10 games last year. So when certain players "shine" during that winning streak, don't forget the big picture of what is happening.
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netboy65 wrote: 10 Dec 2025 05:45 am
HighStick wrote: 10 Dec 2025 00:22 am The whole teams playing like chit. How's this Fowlers fault?
Because no one can currently blame Kyrou, so we need a new guy.
Bingo!
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blackinkbiz wrote: 09 Dec 2025 23:03 pm
Absolut wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:53 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:39 pm That was one of the laziest and stupid plays of the season
In a season of stupid and lazy plays. I can’t believe his drop off from last season.
I can. It's why smart GMs don't extend vets for a few months of exceptional hockey when they haven't proven they can do it for more than a few months.
He's following in the line of other players coasting out their career - Scandella, Leddy, now Fowler. It's wild how the Blues have had bad luck with these end of the career guys.
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His play has fallen off this year but you shouldn't overemphasize one play or even a few over a season.

As said the whole team is playing poorly. They pointed out last night some shifts that were way too long and that leads to a goal against. Managing the puck to allow timely changes is not easy but something they should be able to do at this level. Do the coaches not see this or do they not know how to coach this? You could tell they could barely move and that is going to be worse typically for the older guys.

Coaching specific problems can be video sessions or on ice sessions and they do not seem to be doing that. After they clean this up go to breakouts, going to the net consistently, winning puck battles, and so on.
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hotrivets wrote: 10 Dec 2025 09:50 am His play has fallen off this year but you shouldn't overemphasize one play or even a few over a season.

As said the whole team is playing poorly. They pointed out last night some shifts that were way too long and that leads to a goal against. Managing the puck to allow timely changes is not easy but something they should be able to do at this level. Do the coaches not see this or do they not know how to coach this? You could tell they could barely move and that is going to be worse typically for the older guys.

Coaching specific problems can be video sessions or on ice sessions and they do not seem to be doing that. After they clean this up go to breakouts, going to the net consistently, winning puck battles, and so on.
They’ve really struggled to clear their zone effectively this year, allowing for the D to change, especially in the 2nd when the change is dependent on possession or a deep dump in. They were bad last year, but it’s brutal this year.

Fowler got caught in long shifts a couple times. As far as his extension, not a fan. Like the player, but I bet a TDL deal of Fowler at 50% retained would have brought back a decent pick/prospect from a contender. Now, we have him at $6.1m annually starting next year for 3 years. Don’t see the logic in that for a team in our current state.
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TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 10 Dec 2025 09:54 am
hotrivets wrote: 10 Dec 2025 09:50 am His play has fallen off this year but you shouldn't overemphasize one play or even a few over a season.

As said the whole team is playing poorly. They pointed out last night some shifts that were way too long and that leads to a goal against. Managing the puck to allow timely changes is not easy but something they should be able to do at this level. Do the coaches not see this or do they not know how to coach this? You could tell they could barely move and that is going to be worse typically for the older guys.

Coaching specific problems can be video sessions or on ice sessions and they do not seem to be doing that. After they clean this up go to breakouts, going to the net consistently, winning puck battles, and so on.
They’ve really struggled to clear their zone effectively this year, allowing for the D to change, especially in the 2nd when the change is dependent on possession or a deep dump in. They were bad last year, but it’s brutal this year.

Fowler got caught in long shifts a couple times. As far as his extension, not a fan. Like the player, but I bet a TDL deal of Fowler at 50% retained would have brought back a decent pick/prospect from a contender. Now, we have him at $6.1m annually starting next year for 3 years. Don’t see the logic in that for a team in our current state.
Especially when we’re supposed to have some very good D prospects ready to start playing durin the term of his extension. I said at the time it was idiotic to sign him without seeing him play for a whole season first since he would be under contract anyways, and Ill stick to that sentiment forever.
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SameOldBlues wrote: 10 Dec 2025 10:23 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 10 Dec 2025 09:54 am
hotrivets wrote: 10 Dec 2025 09:50 am His play has fallen off this year but you shouldn't overemphasize one play or even a few over a season.

As said the whole team is playing poorly. They pointed out last night some shifts that were way too long and that leads to a goal against. Managing the puck to allow timely changes is not easy but something they should be able to do at this level. Do the coaches not see this or do they not know how to coach this? You could tell they could barely move and that is going to be worse typically for the older guys.

Coaching specific problems can be video sessions or on ice sessions and they do not seem to be doing that. After they clean this up go to breakouts, going to the net consistently, winning puck battles, and so on.
They’ve really struggled to clear their zone effectively this year, allowing for the D to change, especially in the 2nd when the change is dependent on possession or a deep dump in. They were bad last year, but it’s brutal this year.

Fowler got caught in long shifts a couple times. As far as his extension, not a fan. Like the player, but I bet a TDL deal of Fowler at 50% retained would have brought back a decent pick/prospect from a contender. Now, we have him at $6.1m annually starting next year for 3 years. Don’t see the logic in that for a team in our current state.
Especially when we’re supposed to have some very good D prospects ready to start playing durin the term of his extension. I said at the time it was idiotic to sign him without seeing him play for a whole season first since he would be under contract anyways, and Ill stick to that sentiment forever.
Ok, but how many threads were around earlier this season about “boy, I wish we still had Suter or Leddy around to mentor Mailloux” well, now we’ll have that guy when the kids come. It’s $4M/yr which is the new $2M with the cap rising.
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netboy65 wrote: 10 Dec 2025 10:36 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 10 Dec 2025 10:23 am
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 10 Dec 2025 09:54 am
hotrivets wrote: 10 Dec 2025 09:50 am His play has fallen off this year but you shouldn't overemphasize one play or even a few over a season.

As said the whole team is playing poorly. They pointed out last night some shifts that were way too long and that leads to a goal against. Managing the puck to allow timely changes is not easy but something they should be able to do at this level. Do the coaches not see this or do they not know how to coach this? You could tell they could barely move and that is going to be worse typically for the older guys.

Coaching specific problems can be video sessions or on ice sessions and they do not seem to be doing that. After they clean this up go to breakouts, going to the net consistently, winning puck battles, and so on.
They’ve really struggled to clear their zone effectively this year, allowing for the D to change, especially in the 2nd when the change is dependent on possession or a deep dump in. They were bad last year, but it’s brutal this year.

Fowler got caught in long shifts a couple times. As far as his extension, not a fan. Like the player, but I bet a TDL deal of Fowler at 50% retained would have brought back a decent pick/prospect from a contender. Now, we have him at $6.1m annually starting next year for 3 years. Don’t see the logic in that for a team in our current state.
Especially when we’re supposed to have some very good D prospects ready to start playing durin the term of his extension. I said at the time it was idiotic to sign him without seeing him play for a whole season first since he would be under contract anyways, and Ill stick to that sentiment forever.
Ok, but how many threads were around earlier this season about “boy, I wish we still had Suter or Leddy around to mentor Mailloux” well, now we’ll have that guy when the kids come. It’s $4M/yr which is the new $2M with the cap rising.
Unless I’m mistaken, it’s $6.1m AAV starting next season when his 3-year deal starts. He’s $4m this year on the last season of his ANA contract. That’s pretty pricey whether it’s old or new cap. McDonaugh just resigned with Tampa in the $4m range.
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