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No Justin Carbonneau in WJ

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Love Carels getting an invite. Great player, his stock is rising rapidly.
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somni wrote: 07 Dec 2025 21:31 pm According to this.

https://x.com/scottcwheeler/status/1997 ... 66905?s=20
Goal are apparently not needed! 8O
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Queen not getting picked was surprising to me as well.
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Play Freebird!!!!
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I like Carbonneau but he was bad at the WJSS here in MN this summer and he’s pretty much a one-trick pony. He can sure score goals at the Jr level but he only has 9 assists on the season. His main weaknesses going into the draft were hockey sense/vision and playmaking ability. He’s been quite the goal scorer but I haven’t really seen much of any improvement in those 2 areas if I’m being honest. He also doesn’t bring much of anything defensively. He really needs to round out his game more.

But still, this sucks. Was hoping to see him play as I have tix to the Dec 26 Canada-Czechia game.

Jiricek and Jecho of course made the Czech team. Kos did not but he’s been injured all season. No idea what his injury is. He’s played 0 games for his team in Liiga though.
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There are quite a few guys that didn’t get invited. No Letourneau is a head scratcher.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Dec 2025 07:13 am I like Carbonneau but he was bad at the WJSS here in MN this summer and he’s pretty much a one-trick pony. He can sure score goals at the Jr level but he only has 9 assists on the season. His main weaknesses going into the draft were hockey sense/vision and playmaking ability. He’s been quite the goal scorer but I haven’t really seen much of any improvement in those 2 areas if I’m being honest. He also doesn’t bring much of anything defensively. He really needs to round out his game more.

But still, this sucks. Was hoping to see him play as I have tix to the Dec 26 Canada-Czechia game.

Jiricek and Jecho of course made the Czech team. Kos did not but he’s been injured all season. No idea what his injury is. He’s played 0 games for his team in Liiga though.
Thanks for posting this - based on some the of the literature I was reading, this kid seemed like the second coming of Jarome Iginla or John LeClair.

Expectations have been tempered a bit.
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He can work on his defensive side of his game...especially given his size/frame.

One other part of his game is his stickwork/hands and his ability to carry the puck into the zone. Very high skill there and rated as one of the best in the draft.

But agree that he needs to work on other parts of his game. He's still a kid.
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I’m only half joking, but Carbonneau might be what this team needs, if he is a shooter and not a playmaker. We have a whole team of forwards that think they are all Adam Oates, they could use some selfishness when it comes to actually shooting :D
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STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Dec 2025 07:13 am I like Carbonneau but he was bad at the WJSS here in MN this summer and he’s pretty much a one-trick pony. He can sure score goals at the Jr level but he only has 9 assists on the season. His main weaknesses going into the draft were hockey sense/vision and playmaking ability. He’s been quite the goal scorer but I haven’t really seen much of any improvement in those 2 areas if I’m being honest. He also doesn’t bring much of anything defensively. He really needs to round out his game more.

But still, this sucks. Was hoping to see him play as I have tix to the Dec 26 Canada-Czechia game.

Jiricek and Jecho of course made the Czech team. Kos did not but he’s been injured all season. No idea what his injury is. He’s played 0 games for his team in Liiga though.
I'm not going to say he doesn't have to work on those things because I haven't watched any of his junior games but I will say if you are going to be a one trick pony, putting the puck in the net at a high rate is a pretty good trick to have.
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In fairness to Carbonneau, that is a pretty stacked lineup with some older returning players. Maybe he will be on emergency call up basis. Nothing official yet, let’s see how it plays out. With that said, really excited to see Carels get a shot
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 08 Dec 2025 08:13 am There are quite a few guys that didn’t get invited. No Letourneau is a head scratcher.
my guess they want a majority of small, speedy, crafty guys for the big ice. a selected few big boys.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 08 Dec 2025 10:20 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Dec 2025 07:13 am I like Carbonneau but he was bad at the WJSS here in MN this summer and he’s pretty much a one-trick pony. He can sure score goals at the Jr level but he only has 9 assists on the season. His main weaknesses going into the draft were hockey sense/vision and playmaking ability. He’s been quite the goal scorer but I haven’t really seen much of any improvement in those 2 areas if I’m being honest. He also doesn’t bring much of anything defensively. He really needs to round out his game more.

But still, this sucks. Was hoping to see him play as I have tix to the Dec 26 Canada-Czechia game.

Jiricek and Jecho of course made the Czech team. Kos did not but he’s been injured all season. No idea what his injury is. He’s played 0 games for his team in Liiga though.
I'm not going to say he doesn't have to work on those things because I haven't watched any of his junior games but I will say if you are going to be a one trick pony, putting the puck in the net at a high rate is a pretty good trick to have.
Right!
It’s akin to “All he does is score touchdowns”
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Scott Wheeler shared this on Twitter:
New full-time Team Canada GM Alan Millar started the presser with a long opening statement outlining how he set out to build this World Junior team. It pulls back the curtain a little on their current thought process.

In full:

"First off, it's not an all-star team. We have to build what is a true team. The World Junior championships are hard. There's a type of player and person that you need to help you win at this level. As a group, you need to have a vision and a mindset of what you need when it's hardest — to play a top team in a quarterfinal, a semifinal, a gold medal game.

We built our team around skill, speed, smarts, sense and compete. We prioritized hard skill over soft skill. Players that are only good with time and space, play on the perimeter and don't compete, don't help you win. ... There are players that produce points and have success offensively but you can't trust them to help you win at this level.

You also need different types of players. Size matters. Special teams. Details in the game. Two-way. Matchups. Complete players. Players you trust. Faceoffs. Blocked shots. Those intangibles are invaluable. We talked about performance when it matters. When do players perform? Home and aways, special teams, quality of opponent, game score. Those things have value to us.

We trust the process. U17, U18, a number of players have history in our programs. Their experience and success — it's a process that spans back 2-3 years, it's not only about the past few weeks or months.

What value did we put most in those final decisions? Character. We want players who put the team first. Role acceptance. They're coachable. Humility. We want smart players. Players that lack hockey sense traditionally always hurt a team. We want compete. Non-competitive players will never help you win. And finally, we always ask one question at the end? How do they help us win? That's what it's all about."
In the end, he’s not wrong. And Carbo, while very talented, brings a lot of empty calories to his game unfortunately.

To me, the bigger snub was Marek Vanacker.

Canada is just absolutely loaded this season though. I’ve been saying since July I didn’t think Carbo would make the team.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Dec 2025 07:13 am His main weaknesses going into the draft were hockey sense/vision and playmaking ability.
The Blues really don't seem to be valuing these things very much and it is biting them on the ice...
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