Donovan - Top Farm Systems

[C-Unit]

Let's go with the idea that Seattle and LA present the best farm systems for a return on a Donovan package. Who else?

There's been several potential suitors named. But not all of them have farm systems that could challenge what the first two have.

Houston does not have a top 100 prospect. The Yankees really do not have a very good system. Kansas City doesn't have any pitching prospects higher than a 40 FV. So where else do you turn?

Seems to me it would be good if some of the following teams enter the picture:
- Mets (6 top 100 prospects, 3 SP prospects 50 FV or better)
- Tigers (they wouldn't trade Bryce Rainer but that's a dream of an idea)
- Boston (back to that well?)
- SF Giants?

Seattle is in about as good of a position as you can be as an organization. From where they sit, they really don't need to trade anyone. They can let that system take its time and produce the players it has for themselves. We might be dreaming thinking they would trade Sloan. It all sounds good but may not realistically be on the table. So where else would you turn to try and field the best package you can?

[Ozziesfan41]

I read previously Seattle is interested in Donovan and today I read they are pursuing Jo Jo I wonder what kind of package the two of them could get from them

[C-Unit]

I read previously Seattle is interested in Donovan and today I read they are pursuing Jo Jo I wonder what kind of package the two of them could get from them

I was in the thread too it sounds very nice. I guess my point is at the beginning of the offseason it sounded like there would be a dozen teams coming to the table for Donovan. But are there only two systems in actuality that are interested and can also put together a package we want?

[mattmitchl44]

I've said before - it it's the Mets, I want Nolan McLean.

[Jatalk]

Let's go with the idea that Seattle and LA present the best farm systems for a return on a Donovan package. Who else?

There's been several potential suitors named. But not all of them have farm systems that could challenge what the first two have.

Houston does not have a top 100 prospect. The Yankees really do not have a very good system. Kansas City doesn't have any pitching prospects higher than a 40 FV. So where else do you turn?

Seems to me it would be good if some of the following teams enter the picture:
- Mets (6 top 100 prospects, 3 SP prospects 50 FV or better)
- Tigers (they wouldn't trade Bryce Rainer but that's a dream of an idea)
- Boston (back to that well?)
- SF Giants?

Seattle is in about as good of a position as you can be as an organization. From where they sit, they really don't need to trade anyone. They can let that system take its time and produce the players it has for themselves. We might be dreaming thinking they would trade Sloan. It all sounds good but may not realistically be on the table. So where else would you turn to try and field the best package you can?

I just can’t understand settling for a top 100 for Donovan? Shouldn’t he return higher? I guess it depends on when MLB ready. Should at least be sometime 2026? Where am I wrong.

[mattmitchl44]

Let's go with the idea that Seattle and LA present the best farm systems for a return on a Donovan package. Who else?

There's been several potential suitors named. But not all of them have farm systems that could challenge what the first two have.

Houston does not have a top 100 prospect. The Yankees really do not have a very good system. Kansas City doesn't have any pitching prospects higher than a 40 FV. So where else do you turn?

Seems to me it would be good if some of the following teams enter the picture:
- Mets (6 top 100 prospects, 3 SP prospects 50 FV or better)
- Tigers (they wouldn't trade Bryce Rainer but that's a dream of an idea)
- Boston (back to that well?)
- SF Giants?

Seattle is in about as good of a position as you can be as an organization. From where they sit, they really don't need to trade anyone. They can let that system take its time and produce the players it has for themselves. We might be dreaming thinking they would trade Sloan. It all sounds good but may not realistically be on the table. So where else would you turn to try and field the best package you can?

I just can’t understand settling for a top 100 for Donovan? Shouldn’t he return higher? I guess it depends on when MLB ready. Should at least be sometime 2026? Where am I wrong.

IMO, they should be going for quality over quantity. I'd like them to get one FV 55 (or better) prospect out of trading Donovan, and one that is ETA opening day 2027 at the latest - basically another Liam Doyle-level prospect. That would be like a Top 25 prospect in MLB, by FanGraphs.

Otherwise, you're looking at two FV 50 prospects (two Top 100 prospects), for a FV 50 and an FV 45+ prospect (one Top 100 and one just outside the Top 100).

[2ninr]

I think you guys are too focused on getting a pitching prospect in return. Sure. #1 goal is to fill the system with high ceiling pitching prospects. But this is a situation where, like the draft, you should be looking at bpa and not limiting yourself to a pitcher. This is and will be our best trade chip for several years. If we have an opportunity to get back better value with an outfielder or 3rd baseman with power, who can play the position, we need that too. Plus, I think it gives us more leverage if other teams believe we are open to everyday players as well.

[ramfandan]

I read previously Seattle is interested in Donovan and today I read they are pursuing Jo Jo I wonder what kind of package the two of them could get from them

A BIG package! I could see a 5-player tyoe deal like Boston did the other night.
Good chance MLB Network may call it a blockbuster deal.

[Shady]

I think you guys are too focused on getting a pitching prospect in return. Sure. #1 goal is to fill the system with high ceiling pitching prospects. But this is a situation where, like the draft, you should be looking at bpa and not limiting yourself to a pitcher. This is and will be our best trade chip for several years. If we have an opportunity to get back better value with an outfielder or 3rd baseman with power, who can play the position, we need that too. Plus, I think it gives us more leverage if other teams believe we are open to everyday players as well.

Absolutely. This may be a rare opportunity to acquire a future MOTO hitter.

[craviduce]

I've said before - it it's the Mets, I want Nolan McLean.

Wouldn't McLean, and Benge for that matter, be off limits with the Mets? McLean figures into their immediate rotation plans, yes? Unless I missed an injury?

Tong is MLB ready, too...but I figured they would part with him before McLean. Tong fits our current prospect pitching philosophy... "Power Arm".

Put me down for McLean, too...Benge for that matter, but I don't see it happening...unless of course teams get super motivated to hand us the bank account #'s just to land Donovan. That would be great.

Benge would fit perfectly into our....errrr, Benge would be the 1st piece into rectifying our current, putrid OF state.

[craviduce]

I wouldn't mind breaking up the future Offensive Triad in Detroit....McGonigle, Clark, Briceno....Briceno might be the only one we could yank from Detroit. Package up someone of consequence with Donovan...it could snag a Clark or McGonigle....one can dream

[mattmitchl44]

I've said before - it it's the Mets, I want Nolan McLean.

Wouldn't McLean, and Benge for that matter, be off limits with the Mets? McLean figures into their immediate rotation plans, yes? Unless I missed an injury?

Tong is MLB ready, too...but I figured they would part with him before McLean. Tong fits our current prospect pitching philosophy... "Power Arm".

Put me down for McLean, too...Benge for that matter, but I don't see it happening...unless of course teams get super motivated to hand us the bank account #'s just to land Donovan. That would be great.

Benge would fit perfectly into our....errrr, Benge would be the 1st piece into rectifying our current, putrid OF state.

I don't know that the Mets vision is for their rotation. But if I'm talking to them about Donovan, I'm asking for McLean. And I'm willing to throw in more (Romero, Crooks/Pages, Walker - not necessarily all, but some of them) to make it happen.

[craviduce]

I've said before - it it's the Mets, I want Nolan McLean.

Wouldn't McLean, and Benge for that matter, be off limits with the Mets? McLean figures into their immediate rotation plans, yes? Unless I missed an injury?

Tong is MLB ready, too...but I figured they would part with him before McLean. Tong fits our current prospect pitching philosophy... "Power Arm".

Put me down for McLean, too...Benge for that matter, but I don't see it happening...unless of course teams get super motivated to hand us the bank account #'s just to land Donovan. That would be great.

Benge would fit perfectly into our....errrr, Benge would be the 1st piece into rectifying our current, putrid OF state.

I don't know that the Mets vision is for their rotation. But if I'm talking to them about Donovan, I'm asking for McLean. And I'm willing to throw in more (Romero, Crooks/Pages, Walker - not necessarily all, but some of them) to make it happen.

I understand where you're coming from.... McLean and Tong are both MLB ready, I just figured the higher regarded McLean would be off limits...anything can happen. GM's get hyper motivated sometimes. Pray the Mets GM gets said motivation this week. I would love McLean...but I would probably love Tong, too... it's epic Slider vs. epic Changeup between the two... pick your poison. RHP is a major need in our Farm...so, I'd consider either a major win.

McLean had 8 starts with the Mets.... 2.06 ERA. I think he's in their rotational plans. We might have to throw in Libby to make that trade.

[mattmitchl44]

I've said before - it it's the Mets, I want Nolan McLean.

Wouldn't McLean, and Benge for that matter, be off limits with the Mets? McLean figures into their immediate rotation plans, yes? Unless I missed an injury?

Tong is MLB ready, too...but I figured they would part with him before McLean. Tong fits our current prospect pitching philosophy... "Power Arm".

Put me down for McLean, too...Benge for that matter, but I don't see it happening...unless of course teams get super motivated to hand us the bank account #'s just to land Donovan. That would be great.

Benge would fit perfectly into our....errrr, Benge would be the 1st piece into rectifying our current, putrid OF state.

I don't know that the Mets vision is for their rotation. But if I'm talking to them about Donovan, I'm asking for McLean. And I'm willing to throw in more (Romero, Crooks/Pages, Walker - not necessarily all, but some of them) to make it happen.

I understand where you're coming from.... McLean and Tong are both MLB ready, I just figured the higher regarded McLean would be off limits...anything can happen. GM's get hyper motivated sometimes. Pray the Mets GM gets said motivation this week. I would love McLean...but I would probably love Tong, too... it's epic Slider vs. epic Changeup between the two... pick your poison. RHP is a major need in our Farm...so, I'd consider either a major win.

The Mets aren't known for being completely rational either. They could trade a SP and just plan to go out and buy Valdez if they wanted.

[craviduce]

I've said before - it it's the Mets, I want Nolan McLean.

Wouldn't McLean, and Benge for that matter, be off limits with the Mets? McLean figures into their immediate rotation plans, yes? Unless I missed an injury?

Tong is MLB ready, too...but I figured they would part with him before McLean. Tong fits our current prospect pitching philosophy... "Power Arm".

Put me down for McLean, too...Benge for that matter, but I don't see it happening...unless of course teams get super motivated to hand us the bank account #'s just to land Donovan. That would be great.

Benge would fit perfectly into our....errrr, Benge would be the 1st piece into rectifying our current, putrid OF state.

I don't know that the Mets vision is for their rotation. But if I'm talking to them about Donovan, I'm asking for McLean. And I'm willing to throw in more (Romero, Crooks/Pages, Walker - not necessarily all, but some of them) to make it happen.

I understand where you're coming from.... McLean and Tong are both MLB ready, I just figured the higher regarded McLean would be off limits...anything can happen. GM's get hyper motivated sometimes. Pray the Mets GM gets said motivation this week. I would love McLean...but I would probably love Tong, too... it's epic Slider vs. epic Changeup between the two... pick your poison. RHP is a major need in our Farm...so, I'd consider either a major win.

The Mets aren't known for being completely rational either. They could trade a SP and just plan to go out and buy Valdez if they wanted.

there's a lot of truth to that.

It's an unique situation we find ourselves in.... Seattle and Detroit don't give up prospects...historically speak....The Mets and Red Sox can't get rid of theirs fast enough. The Dodgers can't small trades that no one remembers to stock their system each winter.... Lux to Reds last year.

Like I said, "unique"...I really don't know how this will play out...I pray we're not underwhelmed.

[mattmitchl44]

I've said before - it it's the Mets, I want Nolan McLean.

Wouldn't McLean, and Benge for that matter, be off limits with the Mets? McLean figures into their immediate rotation plans, yes? Unless I missed an injury?

Tong is MLB ready, too...but I figured they would part with him before McLean. Tong fits our current prospect pitching philosophy... "Power Arm".

Put me down for McLean, too...Benge for that matter, but I don't see it happening...unless of course teams get super motivated to hand us the bank account #'s just to land Donovan. That would be great.

Benge would fit perfectly into our....errrr, Benge would be the 1st piece into rectifying our current, putrid OF state.

I don't know that the Mets vision is for their rotation. But if I'm talking to them about Donovan, I'm asking for McLean. And I'm willing to throw in more (Romero, Crooks/Pages, Walker - not necessarily all, but some of them) to make it happen.

I understand where you're coming from.... McLean and Tong are both MLB ready, I just figured the higher regarded McLean would be off limits...anything can happen. GM's get hyper motivated sometimes. Pray the Mets GM gets said motivation this week. I would love McLean...but I would probably love Tong, too... it's epic Slider vs. epic Changeup between the two... pick your poison. RHP is a major need in our Farm...so, I'd consider either a major win.

The Mets aren't known for being completely rational either. They could trade a SP and just plan to go out and buy Valdez if they wanted.

there's a lot of truth to that.

It's an unique situation we find ourselves in.... Seattle and Detroit don't give up prospects...historically speak....The Mets and Red Sox can't get rid of theirs fast enough. The Dodgers can't small trades that no one remembers to stock their system each winter.... Lux to Reds last year.

Like I said, "unique"...I really don't know how this will play out...I pray we're not underwhelmed.

If they get one Top 25 prospect (like McLean) or maybe two Top 100 prospects plus a third "lottery ticket" with upside, that will probably be OK.