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Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
by Shady
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 15:08 pm
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
Shut up Bobo
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 15:13 pm
by Shady
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:08 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
Shut up Bobo
Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 15:33 pm
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:08 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
Shut up Bobo
Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.
Shut up Bobo
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 15:35 pm
by Shady
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:08 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
Shut up Bobo
Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.
Shut up Bobo
Confirms your contrite disposition. But you do motivate me.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 15:54 pm
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:35 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:08 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
Shut up Bobo
Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.
Shut up Bobo
Confirms your contrite disposition. But you do motivate me.
Shut up Bobo
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 15:57 pm
by Shady
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:54 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:35 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:08 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
Shut up Bobo
Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.
Shut up Bobo
Confirms your contrite disposition. But you do motivate me.
Shut up Bobo
You have impressive bumping ability. That's about all you offer. I'm done with your nonsense.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 15:58 pm
by 2ninr
Scouty usually has a point. Whether you agree or not. And he's consistent.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 16:03 pm
by Shady
2ninr wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 15:58 pm
Scouty usually has a point. Whether you agree or not. And he's consistent.
And you are just as much of a jerk as he is. Be proud. As with snottyboy, I'll disregard any of your future negativity.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 16:11 pm
by Adam2
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
I don't think anybody we have on the trade block can bring that return
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 16:18 pm
by Shady
Adam2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
I don't think anybody we have on the trade block can bring that return
You are probably right. That's why DeWitt needs to shell out some cash for a quality FA starting pitcher to help make this team more competitive next season. And get more fans back in the stadium.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 16:26 pm
by kyace
Cease is a questionable #2 and he got $210 million. Best bet would be trade for someone like Rivers from Dodgers or Gill or Hampton from the Yankees who demonstrated the tools to be a #2 before injuries.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 16:28 pm
by Cusecards
Yes....the Cards can certainly use a #2 caliber SP and they are much more likely to acquire through trade than free agency.
They do have the pieces to put together a decent package but there is no way they are getting a “bargain”.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 16:42 pm
by NYCardsFan
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 16:18 pm
Adam2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
I don't think anybody we have on the trade block can bring that return
You are probably right.
That's why DeWitt needs to shell out some cash for a quality FA starting pitcher to help make this team more competitive next season. And get more fans back in the stadium.
They just traded away a legit “quality #2 type starting pitcher” (plus $20mm) for prospects. What does that tell you?
For the umpteenth time: They. Aren’t. Focused. On. Being. Competitive. Next. Season.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 16:59 pm
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 14:36 pm
And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.
Eh, Bloom just needs to get the next value from the trades. Then maybe sign a Quintana.
Don’t get too worked up over getting a #2.
Re: Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher
Posted: 27 Nov 2025 18:03 pm
by Shady
kyace wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 16:26 pm
Cease is a questionable #2 and he got $210 million. Best bet would be trade for someone like Rivers from Dodgers or Gill or Hampton from the Yankees who demonstrated the tools to be a #2 before injuries.
That's where I'd be looking in a trade for Contreras.