Bloom needs to find a bargain #2 type FA starting pitcher

[Shady]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

[scoutyjones2]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

Shut up Bobo

[Shady]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

Shut up Bobo

Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.

[scoutyjones2]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

Shut up Bobo

Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.

Shut up Bobo

[Shady]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

Shut up Bobo

Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.

Shut up Bobo

Confirms your contrite disposition. But you do motivate me.

[scoutyjones2]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

Shut up Bobo

Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.

Shut up Bobo

Confirms your contrite disposition. But you do motivate me.

Shut up Bobo

[Shady]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

Shut up Bobo

Man, you seem to be yearning for some kind of twisted validation. But you are a joke. You seldom offer anything but ridicule to others. Happy Thanksgiving anyway.

Shut up Bobo

Confirms your contrite disposition. But you do motivate me.

Shut up Bobo

You have impressive bumping ability. That's about all you offer. I'm done with your nonsense.

[2ninr]

Scouty usually has a point. Whether you agree or not. And he's consistent.

[Shady]

Scouty usually has a point. Whether you agree or not. And he's consistent.

And you are just as much of a jerk as he is. Be proud. As with snottyboy, I'll disregard any of your future negativity.

[Adam2]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

I don't think anybody we have on the trade block can bring that return

[Shady]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

I don't think anybody we have on the trade block can bring that return

You are probably right. That's why DeWitt needs to shell out some cash for a quality FA starting pitcher to help make this team more competitive next season. And get more fans back in the stadium.

[kyace]

Cease is a questionable #2 and he got $210 million. Best bet would be trade for someone like Rivers from Dodgers or Gill or Hampton from the Yankees who demonstrated the tools to be a #2 before injuries.

[Cusecards]

Yes....the Cards can certainly use a #2 caliber SP and they are much more likely to acquire through trade than free agency.
They do have the pieces to put together a decent package but there is no way they are getting a “bargain”.

[NYCardsFan]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

I don't think anybody we have on the trade block can bring that return

You are probably right. That's why DeWitt needs to shell out some cash for a quality FA starting pitcher to help make this team more competitive next season. And get more fans back in the stadium.

They just traded away a legit “quality #2 type starting pitcher” (plus $20mm) for prospects. What does that tell you?

For the umpteenth time: They. Aren’t. Focused. On. Being. Competitive. Next. Season.

[ecleme22]

And DeWitt really needs to OK the money to sign that pitcher. Or maybe Bloom can get one in a trade. Probably, trading Donovan is the only possibility that route. Maybe a Contreras trade could. With Liberatore, McGreevy and Fitts, the Cardinals now have three pretty good #3 type starting pitchers.But that's not going to move the needle much from last season. If this scenario plays out, the Cardinals might surprise some people next season.

Eh, Bloom just needs to get the next value from the trades. Then maybe sign a Quintana.

Don’t get too worked up over getting a #2.

[Shady]

Cease is a questionable #2 and he got $210 million. Best bet would be trade for someone like Rivers from Dodgers or Gill or Hampton from the Yankees who demonstrated the tools to be a #2 before injuries.

That's where I'd be looking in a trade for Contreras.