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Different trade idea

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The Yankees obviously have a ton of offense but were terrible defensively in CF last year (29th of 30). Maybe call them up and see if the Cardinals can offload Victor Scott to them.

His all-defense profile might work a lot better for a team that doesn't need offensive production from him.
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Re: Different trade idea

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:16 am The Yankees obviously have a ton of offense but were terrible defensively in CF last year (29th of 30). Maybe call them up and see if the Cardinals can offload Victor Scott to them.

His all-defense profile might work a lot better for a team that doesn't need offensive production from him.
All defensive players are a dime a dozen….why would the Yankees give up anything of value for a glove only CF?
They could just sign Bader back or Siani……I don’t see a deal with the Yankees and Scott at all. Scott is a throw in at this point.
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Can't believe the Yanks let Bellinger sign with Mets, etc. Bellinger, Scott, Judge. Fix CF defense issues.

Will the Yanks go with McMahon at 3B or sweeten the pot in Scott trade w/NA? Which Yank(s) is coming to STL in Scott only trade? Pitchers Lalane or Hampton?? Jones (OF) would be awesome but could never be obtained straight up.
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Re: Different trade idea

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Bubble4427 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:36 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:16 am The Yankees obviously have a ton of offense but were terrible defensively in CF last year (29th of 30). Maybe call them up and see if the Cardinals can offload Victor Scott to them.

His all-defense profile might work a lot better for a team that doesn't need offensive production from him.
All defensive players are a dime a dozen….why would the Yankees give up anything of value for a glove only CF?
They could just sign Bader back or Siani……I don’t see a deal with the Yankees and Scott at all. Scott is a throw in at this point.
Well, there aren't a LOT of CFs who were as good defensively as Scott last year. And, while I don't think the Cardinals would get a lot for him, this might be the time to sell as high as possible on him.
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Watch a couple Yank games with Grisham in CF and you can see why Scott would be a solution. While Scott will not hit 34 HR's he could ne a nice compliment to Chisholm speed and athleticism.
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Re: Different trade idea

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ilcubuffs wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:39 am Can't believe the Yanks let Bellinger sign with Mets, etc. Bellinger, Scott, Judge. Fix CF defense issues.

Will the Yanks go with McMahon at 3B or sweeten the pot in Scott trade w/NA? Which Yank(s) is coming to STL in Scott only trade? Pitchers Lalane or Hampton?? Jones (OF) would be awesome but could never be obtained straight up.
When did Bellinger sign with the Mutts?
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Re: Different trade idea

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"Can't believe the Yanks will let Bellinger sign with Mets, etc. Bellinger, Scott, Judge. Fix CF defense issues."

Fixed it.
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Re: Different trade idea

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:41 am
Bubble4427 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:36 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:16 am The Yankees obviously have a ton of offense but were terrible defensively in CF last year (29th of 30). Maybe call them up and see if the Cardinals can offload Victor Scott to them.

His all-defense profile might work a lot better for a team that doesn't need offensive production from him.
All defensive players are a dime a dozen….why would the Yankees give up anything of value for a glove only CF?
They could just sign Bader back or Siani……I don’t see a deal with the Yankees and Scott at all. Scott is a throw in at this point.
Well, there aren't a LOT of CFs who were as good defensively as Scott last year. And, while I don't think the Cardinals would get a lot for him, this might be the time to sell as high as possible on him.
Are we sure, after only 618 PA's, we're "selling high" or is there a chance he could develop and improve?

I'd hate to give away (and you'd be giving him away to the Yankees for c r a p) a Gold Glove caliber CF'er who could steal 50+ bases if he can get his OB% above .330.

Pass
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Re: Different trade idea

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:idea:
ilcubuffs wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:02 am "Can't believe the Yanks will let Bellinger sign with Mets, etc. Bellinger, Scott, Judge. Fix CF defense issues."

Fixed it.
How does a team "let" a player sign with another team? The player has a say in it :roll:
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:14 am :idea:
ilcubuffs wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:02 am "Can't believe the Yanks will let Bellinger sign with Mets, etc. Bellinger, Scott, Judge. Fix CF defense issues."

Fixed it.
How does a team "let" a player sign with another team? The player has a say in it :roll:
Don't you remember ... the Cardinals 'let' Pujols sign with the Angels too ! Pujols had no say in that one too ! :lol:
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Re: Different trade idea

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ramfandan wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:23 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:14 am :idea:
ilcubuffs wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:02 am "Can't believe the Yanks will let Bellinger sign with Mets, etc. Bellinger, Scott, Judge. Fix CF defense issues."

Fixed it.
How does a team "let" a player sign with another team? The player has a say in it :roll:
Don't you remember ... the Cardinals 'let' Pujols sign with the Angels too ! Pujols had no say in that one too ! :lol:
Well God told his wife, so you can't compete with that :lol:
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Re: Different trade idea

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rockondlouie wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:07 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:41 am
Bubble4427 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:36 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:16 am The Yankees obviously have a ton of offense but were terrible defensively in CF last year (29th of 30). Maybe call them up and see if the Cardinals can offload Victor Scott to them.

His all-defense profile might work a lot better for a team that doesn't need offensive production from him.
All defensive players are a dime a dozen….why would the Yankees give up anything of value for a glove only CF?
They could just sign Bader back or Siani……I don’t see a deal with the Yankees and Scott at all. Scott is a throw in at this point.
Well, there aren't a LOT of CFs who were as good defensively as Scott last year. And, while I don't think the Cardinals would get a lot for him, this might be the time to sell as high as possible on him.
Are we sure, after only 618 PA's, we're "selling high" or is there a chance he could develop and improve?

I'd hate to give away (and you'd be giving him away to the Yankees for c r a p) a Gold Glove caliber CF'er who could steal 50+ bases if he can get his OB% above .330.

Pass
He hasn't posted an OBP above .305 since AA. That's a long way from .330.
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Re: Different trade idea

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:26 am
rockondlouie wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:07 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:41 am
Bubble4427 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:36 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:16 am The Yankees obviously have a ton of offense but were terrible defensively in CF last year (29th of 30). Maybe call them up and see if the Cardinals can offload Victor Scott to them.

His all-defense profile might work a lot better for a team that doesn't need offensive production from him.
All defensive players are a dime a dozen….why would the Yankees give up anything of value for a glove only CF?
They could just sign Bader back or Siani……I don’t see a deal with the Yankees and Scott at all. Scott is a throw in at this point.
Well, there aren't a LOT of CFs who were as good defensively as Scott last year. And, while I don't think the Cardinals would get a lot for him, this might be the time to sell as high as possible on him.
Are we sure, after only 618 PA's, we're "selling high" or is there a chance he could develop and improve?

I'd hate to give away (and you'd be giving him away to the Yankees for c r a p) a Gold Glove caliber CF'er who could steal 50+ bases if he can get his OB% above .330.

Pass
He hasn't posted an OBP above .305 since AA. That's a long way from .330.
Not really

Ozzie Smith had a career .295 OB% in 2536 PA's while w/the Padres.

When Whitey acquired him he made him a bet:

$1 for Ozzie every time he hit a ball on the ground vs $1 for Whitey for every time he hit a ball in the air that wasn't a hit.

His first year in St. Louis his OB% JUMPED to .339.

As a Cardinals he became a .350 OB% hitter, a LONG WAY from the .295 OB% hitter he was in SD.

If they can get VSII to hit down on the ball, ala Ozzie Smith when Whitey got him to do that, then he could add another 10+ infield hits.

Plus if someone takes him aside this spring and works on his bunting, then he could easily add 10+ hits.

No way I give away a young, Gold Glove caliber CF'er w/his speed to the Yankees for nothing but a suspect.
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Re: Different trade idea

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rockondlouie wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:33 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:26 am
rockondlouie wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:07 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:41 am
Bubble4427 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:36 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:16 am The Yankees obviously have a ton of offense but were terrible defensively in CF last year (29th of 30). Maybe call them up and see if the Cardinals can offload Victor Scott to them.

His all-defense profile might work a lot better for a team that doesn't need offensive production from him.
All defensive players are a dime a dozen….why would the Yankees give up anything of value for a glove only CF?
They could just sign Bader back or Siani……I don’t see a deal with the Yankees and Scott at all. Scott is a throw in at this point.
Well, there aren't a LOT of CFs who were as good defensively as Scott last year. And, while I don't think the Cardinals would get a lot for him, this might be the time to sell as high as possible on him.
Are we sure, after only 618 PA's, we're "selling high" or is there a chance he could develop and improve?

I'd hate to give away (and you'd be giving him away to the Yankees for c r a p) a Gold Glove caliber CF'er who could steal 50+ bases if he can get his OB% above .330.

Pass
He hasn't posted an OBP above .305 since AA. That's a long way from .330.
Not really

Ozzie Smith had a career .295 OB% in 2536 PA's while w/the Padres.

When Whitey acquired him he made him a bet:

$1 for Ozzie every time he hit a ball on the ground vs $1 for Whitey for every time he hit a ball in the air that wasn't a hit.

His first year in St. Louis his OB% JUMPED to .339.

As a Cardinals he became a .350 OB% hitter, a LONG WAY from the .295 OB% hitter he was in SD.

If they can get VSII to hit down on the ball, ala Ozzie Smith when Whitey got him to do that, then he could add another 10+ infield hits.

Plus if someone takes him aside this spring and works on his bunting, then he could easily add 10+ hits.

No way I give away a young, Gold Glove caliber CF'er w/his speed to the Yankees for nothing but a suspect.
When has Argo won a GG? With PCA, doubt he ever wins one
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Re: Different trade idea

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rockondlouie wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:33 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:26 am
rockondlouie wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:07 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:41 am
Bubble4427 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:36 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:16 am The Yankees obviously have a ton of offense but were terrible defensively in CF last year (29th of 30). Maybe call them up and see if the Cardinals can offload Victor Scott to them.

His all-defense profile might work a lot better for a team that doesn't need offensive production from him.
All defensive players are a dime a dozen….why would the Yankees give up anything of value for a glove only CF?
They could just sign Bader back or Siani……I don’t see a deal with the Yankees and Scott at all. Scott is a throw in at this point.
Well, there aren't a LOT of CFs who were as good defensively as Scott last year. And, while I don't think the Cardinals would get a lot for him, this might be the time to sell as high as possible on him.
Are we sure, after only 618 PA's, we're "selling high" or is there a chance he could develop and improve?

I'd hate to give away (and you'd be giving him away to the Yankees for c r a p) a Gold Glove caliber CF'er who could steal 50+ bases if he can get his OB% above .330.

Pass
He hasn't posted an OBP above .305 since AA. That's a long way from .330.
Not really

Ozzie Smith had a career .295 OB% in 2536 PA's while w/the Padres.

When Whitey acquired him he made him a bet:

$1 for Ozzie every time he hit a ball on the ground vs $1 for Whitey for every time he hit a ball in the air that wasn't a hit.

His first year in St. Louis his OB% JUMPED to .339.

As a Cardinals he became a .350 OB% hitter, a LONG WAY from the .295 OB% hitter he was in SD.

If they can get VSII to hit down on the ball, ala Ozzie Smith when Whitey got him to do that, then he could add another 10+ infield hits.

Plus if someone takes him aside this spring and works on his bunting, then he could easily add 10+ hits.

No way I give away a young, Gold Glove caliber CF'er w/his speed to the Yankees for nothing but a suspect.
O. Smith was hitting down on the ball on an Astroturf field. Scott isn't.
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I think Bader makes more sense for them. He has experience with them and adds more offense.
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