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The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 06:47 am
by OldRed
Will the Cardinals be next?

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 07:18 am
by Jatalk
OldRed wrote: 14 Nov 2025 06:47 am Will the Cardinals be next?
Don’t think so but it will be interesting to watch Padres. All these owners supposedly not making money, so who buys?

Padres in big market with high payroll. I saw $2 billion in headline.

I’m interested to watch.

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 07:21 am
by OldRed
Jatalk wrote: 14 Nov 2025 07:18 am
OldRed wrote: 14 Nov 2025 06:47 am Will the Cardinals be next?
Don’t think so but it will be interesting to watch Padres. All these owners supposedly not making money, so who buys?

Padres in big market with high payroll. I saw $2 billion in headline.

I’m interested to watch.
Considering the owner has passed away and the team has been run by the family makes it even more interesting.

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 07:24 am
by ramfandan
Jatalk wrote: 14 Nov 2025 07:18 am
OldRed wrote: 14 Nov 2025 06:47 am Will the Cardinals be next?
Don’t think so but it will be interesting to watch Padres. All these owners supposedly not making money, so who buys?

Padres in big market with high payroll. I saw $2 billion in headline.

I’m interested to watch.
Forbes in their 2025 valuations has Padres as 17th highest at $1.95 B
BTW DeWitt has the 11th best valuation with the Cardinals at $2.55 B so one slot under the top 1/3 teams. 30 years ago DeWitt bought the Cardinals for $150 Million with a M .

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 08:25 am
by moose-and-squirrel
Jatalk wrote: 14 Nov 2025 07:18 am
OldRed wrote: 14 Nov 2025 06:47 am Will the Cardinals be next?
Don’t think so but it will be interesting to watch Padres. All these owners supposedly not making money, so who buys?

Padres in big market with high payroll. I saw $2 billion in headline.

I’m interested to watch.
SD is a big market?

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 08:28 am
by Talkin' Baseball
Probably a good course of action.

#1 Their payroll is seriously upside down.
#2 Their owners are not situated to sustain serious losses.
#3 The heirs don't get along.

Sell the team and realize your gains.

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 09:00 am
by rockondlouie
ramfandan wrote: 14 Nov 2025 07:24 am
Jatalk wrote: 14 Nov 2025 07:18 am
OldRed wrote: 14 Nov 2025 06:47 am Will the Cardinals be next?
Don’t think so but it will be interesting to watch Padres. All these owners supposedly not making money, so who buys?

Padres in big market with high payroll. I saw $2 billion in headline.

I’m interested to watch.
Forbes in their 2025 valuations has Padres as 17th highest at $1.95 B
BTW DeWitt has the 11th best valuation with the Cardinals at $2.55 B so one slot under the top 1/3 teams. 30 years ago DeWitt bought the Cardinals for $150 Million with a M .
$150M minus the money he immediately recouped selling off the parking garages and some land. :wink:

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 09:53 am
by Ronnie Dobbs
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 14 Nov 2025 08:28 am Probably a good course of action.

#1 Their payroll is seriously upside down.
#2 Their owners are not situated to sustain serious losses.
#3 The heirs don't get along.

Sell the team and realize your gains.
Yea, it's all fun and games signing all these players to free agent deals and trading for players who make a ton of money, but unless you're one of about 3 teams, it's not going to last. You've seen it again and again. It will come back and bite you and next thing you know you're in a lengthy rebuild. I don't care how many billions the owner has, they don't like seeing that money go to waste. Especially if they can't win a WS despite spending all that money.

#3 is just icing on the cake.

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 09:58 am
by ramfandan
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 14 Nov 2025 09:53 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 14 Nov 2025 08:28 am Probably a good course of action.

#1 Their payroll is seriously upside down.
#2 Their owners are not situated to sustain serious losses.
#3 The heirs don't get along.

Sell the team and realize your gains.
Yea, it's all fun and games signing all these players to free agent deals and trading for players who make a ton of money, but unless you're one of about 3 teams, it's not going to last. You've seen it again and again. It will come back and bite you and next thing you know you're in a lengthy rebuild. I don't care how many billions the owner has, they don't like seeing that money go to waste. Especially if they can't win a WS despite spending all that money.

#3 is just icing on the cake.
They also know that even if they are one of the top 3 spendors even if those 3 teams would make the final four teams, only ONE team will bring home the trophy . Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc. have found that out the last two year for sure

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 10:05 am
by Ronnie Dobbs
ramfandan wrote: 14 Nov 2025 09:58 amThey also know that even if they are one of the top 3 spendors even if those 3 teams would make the final four teams, only ONE team will bring home the trophy . Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc. have found that out the last two year for sure
Yep. It seems so easy, especially if you're some kind of billionaire used to being able to pay for anything you want, to tell yourself that all you have to do is just pay for the most expensive players that you can and you're guaranteed to win. But it doesn't work that way. And another thing we know about billionaires is that most of them are spoiled babies. They don't get what they want, so eventually they take their ball and go home.

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 10:35 am
by scoutyjones2
OldRed wrote: 14 Nov 2025 06:47 am Will the Cardinals be next?
Loser organization that is poorly run throughout it's history

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 10:51 am
by Ronnie Dobbs
https://stlsportspage.com/2025/11/13/fo ... -tatis-jr/

Not exactly on topic, but Rob Rains did an article stating that the Cardinals should trade for Fernando Tatis Jr. I guess SD is said to be making some noise at the GM meetings that he could be available. While I like the idea of trading for a player like him (young, about to enter his prime, only signed through age 35 season, RH OFer), where I think it falls apart is the only guy he mentions in the trade talk is Sonny Gray.

I'm sure the Padres could use a pitcher, but I think you're going to need a lot more than Sonny Gray to get that deal done. And I'm guessing that including a Contreras or Donovan or Burleson in that deal probably doesn't get it done either. If I were the Padres, I'd ask for young, stud players in return who aren't going to cost much. I think other teams would offer that, but the Cardinals can't afford to start trading prospects like that right now.

Anyway, just thought it was interesting.

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 10:59 am
by OldRed
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 14 Nov 2025 10:51 am https://stlsportspage.com/2025/11/13/fo ... -tatis-jr/

Not exactly on topic, but Rob Rains did an article stating that the Cardinals should trade for Fernando Tatis Jr. I guess SD is said to be making some noise at the GM meetings that he could be available. While I like the idea of trading for a player like him (young, about to enter his prime, only signed through age 35 season, RH OFer), where I think it falls apart is the only guy he mentions in the trade talk is Sonny Gray.

I'm sure the Padres could use a pitcher, but I think you're going to need a lot more than Sonny Gray to get that deal done. And I'm guessing that including a Contreras or Donovan or Burleson in that deal probably doesn't get it done either. If I were the Padres, I'd ask for young, stud players in return who aren't going to cost much. I think other teams would offer that, but the Cardinals can't afford to start trading prospects like that right now.

Anyway, just thought it was interesting.
Interesting. He will be 27 when the season starts, but since his suspension for PED he has not had a really great season offensively. But he sure would be better than anyone we have at this time.

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 11:01 am
by MrPostman01
The Cardinals should buy the entire franchise, give best to the Cards and let San Diego have the worst and get that #1 pick. A true juggernaut!

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 11:06 am
by Talkin' Baseball
MrPostman01 wrote: 14 Nov 2025 11:01 am The Cardinals should buy the entire franchise, give best to the Cards and let San Diego have the worst and get that #1 pick. A true juggernaut!
Who gets AJ Preller?

Re: The owners of the San Diego Padres are considering options to sell the team.

Posted: 14 Nov 2025 11:17 am
by WaltsSuccessor
OldRed wrote: 14 Nov 2025 10:59 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 14 Nov 2025 10:51 am https://stlsportspage.com/2025/11/13/fo ... -tatis-jr/

Not exactly on topic, but Rob Rains did an article stating that the Cardinals should trade for Fernando Tatis Jr. I guess SD is said to be making some noise at the GM meetings that he could be available. While I like the idea of trading for a player like him (young, about to enter his prime, only signed through age 35 season, RH OFer), where I think it falls apart is the only guy he mentions in the trade talk is Sonny Gray.

I'm sure the Padres could use a pitcher, but I think you're going to need a lot more than Sonny Gray to get that deal done. And I'm guessing that including a Contreras or Donovan or Burleson in that deal probably doesn't get it done either. If I were the Padres, I'd ask for young, stud players in return who aren't going to cost much. I think other teams would offer that, but the Cardinals can't afford to start trading prospects like that right now.

Anyway, just thought it was interesting.
Interesting. He will be 27 when the season starts, but since his suspension for PED he has not had a really great season offensively. But he sure would be better than anyone we have at this time.
Platinum gold glove winner (again) with a 125 OPS+ would sure look nice in our lineup and OF. No he's not the slugger he was pre-PED suspension, but a 5 win player is a 5 win player - helps us immensely. Yeah the contract is big money, but he's "only" signed through age 35 so it should age about as good as it can for those mega deals (unlike Bogaerts and Machado both signed through age 40).

Would be an interesting first, bold move by Bloom! My guess is another team(s) would way outdid us for Tatis though.