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Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 19:44 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
What the heck…..
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 19:49 pm
by cardinalsfever44
Judge had a better BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+ than Raleigh.
Raleigh had 7 more HR's and 11 more RBI's.
Yankees had a better regular season record.
This should not be shocking.
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 20:00 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 19:49 pm
Judge had a better BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+ than Raleigh.
Raleigh had 7 more HR's and 11 more RBI's.
Yankees had a better regular season record.
This should not be shocking.
He set all sorts of records hitting from the catching spot. He was a beast I think it’s stupid.
7 HRs is another month of baseball and he did it hitting in Seattle with a brutal park factor. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous.
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 20:03 pm
by WLTFE
Ok
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 20:04 pm
by cardinalsfever44
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 20:00 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 19:49 pm
Judge had a better BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+ than Raleigh.
Raleigh had 7 more HR's and 11 more RBI's.
Yankees had a better regular season record.
This should not be shocking.
He set all sorts of records hitting from the catching spot. He was a beast I think it’s stupid.
7 HRs is another month of baseball and he did it hitting in Seattle with a brutal park factor. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous.
He did all that and Judge was still a better player this season. Really just shows how incredible Judge is.
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 20:16 pm
by Ozziesfan41
If Raleigh had been a yankee he would have won it
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 20:24 pm
by rbirules
Judge's OPS is almost 200 points higher. He had a wRC+ over 200, only done four times in the last ten years, three times by Judge.
He was the best player in baseball this year.
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 20:26 pm
by ramfandan
Show that HR’s is one stat and Raleigh led Judge in two categories.. Judge had several more as listed above
That overwhelming lead in OPS separated the two by quite a lot.
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 20:51 pm
by Mort Gage
I would have voted Raleigh but it's hardly a robbery. Raleigh had to put up his 60 HRs playing in a pitchers park while catching 121 games. Judge won 17-13 so Raleigh got his due in the voting.
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 21:33 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
rbirules wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 20:24 pm
Judge's OPS is almost 200 points higher. He had a wRC+ over 200, only done four times in the last ten years, three times by Judge.
He was the best player in baseball this year.
Only 7 players have hit 60+ in a season. Cal did it this year playing a ton of games at catcher and in the toughest park factor park.
3 of those major roid users. Bonds Sosa and Mac
This was a legendary season won worthy of MVP. We’ll never see a catcher dominate offensively like this again.
Offensive numbers aren’t apples to apples. The position has to be weighed into the voting and war is merely directional.
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 23:08 pm
by Gob
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 19:49 pm
Judge had a better BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+ than Raleigh.
Raleigh had 7 more HR's and 11 more RBI's.
Yankees had a better regular season record.
This should not be shocking.
Yeah but still
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 23:15 pm
by scoutyjones2
Gob wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 23:08 pm
cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 19:49 pm
Judge had a better BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+ than Raleigh.
Raleigh had 7 more HR's and 11 more RBI's.
Yankees had a better regular season record.
This should not be shocking.
Yeah but still
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 23:17 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 21:33 pm
rbirules wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 20:24 pm
Judge's OPS is almost 200 points higher. He had a wRC+ over 200, only done four times in the last ten years, three times by Judge.
He was the best player in baseball this year.
Only 7 players have hit 60+ in a season. Cal did it this year playing a ton of games at catcher and in the toughest park factor park.
3 of those major roid users. Bonds Sosa and Mac
This was a legendary season won worthy of MVP. We’ll never see a catcher dominate offensively like this again.
Offensive numbers aren’t apples to apples. The position has to be weighed into the voting and war is merely directional.
Yea judge DH 56 games 95 games in RF cal 120 games catcher 38 games DH
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 23:21 pm
by JuanAgosto
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 20:16 pm
If Raleigh had been a yankee he would have won it
Bingo! Raleigh produced outstanding numbers while playing a more demanding position. He also did it in a bigger ballpark. Judge is great, but I think being in NYC won this award.
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 23:48 pm
by dugoutrex
I'm OK with it
Re: Judge beat out Cal?
Posted: 13 Nov 2025 23:58 pm
by ecleme22
dugoutrex wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025 23:48 pm
I'm OK with it
Yep. I get it.
You hit 53 HR w a .331 Batting Average. And you lead the league in walks.
That's nuts.