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Snuggs is on the wrong line

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I love the fourth line- they are clicking. I’m glad that Dvorsky has Holloway on his line but Snuggs with Buch and Thomas is like putting a governor on Snuggs. Switch Snuggs with Kyrou. Kyrou and Thomas have been together for at least four years. When Neighbours returns, I don’t know what to do with Buch. For now, put him with Suter and Schenn, although Bjuugstad? Is better.
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#89 will always be on the first line and the first PP unit as long as Monty is coach. Perhaps Monty sees something that we as fans don’t see. Is he being played because of the contract? It certainly isn’t because of his output.
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Galatians221jb1 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 21:47 pm I love the fourth line- they are clicking. I’m glad that Dvorsky has Holloway on his line but Snuggs with Buch and Thomas is like putting a governor on Snuggs. Switch Snuggs with Kyrou. Kyrou and Thomas have been together for at least four years. When Neighbours returns, I don’t know what to do with Buch. For now, put him with Suter and Schenn, although Bjuugstad? Is better.
What has been proven year over year is that when Thomas and Kyrou are on the same line. It turns into pass city and highlight real style hockey. They only looked good for a brief period 3 years ago on 2-1 breaks. Outside of that they are both each others worst enemy.
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At some point Thomas and Buchnevich will wake up.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 11 Nov 2025 21:54 pm
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 21:47 pm I love the fourth line- they are clicking. I’m glad that Dvorsky has Holloway on his line but Snuggs with Buch and Thomas is like putting a governor on Snuggs. Switch Snuggs with Kyrou. Kyrou and Thomas have been together for at least four years. When Neighbours returns, I don’t know what to do with Buch. For now, put him with Suter and Schenn, although Bjuugstad? Is better.
What has been proven year over year is that when Thomas and Kyrou are on the same line. It turns into pass city and highlight real style hockey. They only looked good for a brief period 3 years ago on 2-1 breaks. Outside of that they are both each others worst enemy.
Yes! Kyrou and Thomas suck together. Too soft on the puck. Neighbours looks better with Thomas.
They should try Holloway - Thomas - Neighbours.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 11 Nov 2025 21:54 pm
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 21:47 pm I love the fourth line- they are clicking. I’m glad that Dvorsky has Holloway on his line but Snuggs with Buch and Thomas is like putting a governor on Snuggs. Switch Snuggs with Kyrou. Kyrou and Thomas have been together for at least four years. When Neighbours returns, I don’t know what to do with Buch. For now, put him with Suter and Schenn, although Bjuugstad? Is better.
What has been proven year over year is that when Thomas and Kyrou are on the same line. It turns into pass city and highlight real style hockey. They only looked good for a brief period 3 years ago on 2-1 breaks. Outside of that they are both each others worst enemy.
Yep the two are incompatible. It's very odd. But it makes the OP idea a bad one.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 11 Nov 2025 21:54 pm
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 21:47 pm I love the fourth line- they are clicking. I’m glad that Dvorsky has Holloway on his line but Snuggs with Buch and Thomas is like putting a governor on Snuggs. Switch Snuggs with Kyrou. Kyrou and Thomas have been together for at least four years. When Neighbours returns, I don’t know what to do with Buch. For now, put him with Suter and Schenn, although Bjuugstad? Is better.
What has been proven year over year is that when Thomas and Kyrou are on the same line. It turns into pass city and highlight real style hockey. They only looked good for a brief period 3 years ago on 2-1 breaks. Outside of that they are both each others worst enemy.
+1
Thomas has got a Good shot but he doesn,t shoot enough IMO .
Especially when plays with as you said Kyrou.

Plus on Snuggerud.
A Power Play suggestion.

I would like to see Snuggy on Left Dot on the Power Play because he got a Great 1 timer and Dvorsky on Right dot on.Power play because they both have Great 1 timers .

Faulk or Fowler on the center, PP point , they both could use either 1 , Snuggy or Dvorsky, for a Great 1 timer shot.

But Thomas has been on left dot so far and Snuggy has been place down low or in front of the net so far.

But the Power Play has been scoring of late.
So it probably isn, t going to happen.
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If you can and are willing to play every player, with every player.
You suck as a coach.
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Buch has been on the wrong line / in the lineup when he shouldn't be.

Sure, he can play decent defensively but he's a black hole offensively and it's obviously a mental issue at this point.

He needs to sit for a game or 2 to get refocused.

It's worked so far for pretty much every player except Mailloux (but we know why it didn't for him).

The Blues need their top billed players to score goals and carry the load offensively. I would change the topic of this to Buch instead of Snuggs. I think Snuggerud should be put in positions to succeed as others would have argued that Bolduc should have stayed there etc.

He should be played with Thomas so he is given every chance to succeed in my opinion.
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dtkblueshockey wrote: 12 Nov 2025 08:28 am Buch has been on the wrong line / in the lineup when he shouldn't be.

Sure, he can play decent defensively but he's a black hole offensively and it's obviously a mental issue at this point.

He needs to sit for a game or 2 to get refocused.

It's worked so far for pretty much every player except Mailloux (but we know why it didn't for him).

The Blues need their top billed players to score goals and carry the load offensively. I would change the topic of this to Buch instead of Snuggs. I think Snuggerud should be put in positions to succeed as others would have argued that Bolduc should have stayed there etc.

He should be played with Thomas so he is given every chance to succeed in my opinion.
I have no problem with him being with Thomas but Buch isn’t going to help him. We need speed and offense. Holloway/Dvorsky/Snuggs has the speed and offensive pressure.
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dtkblueshockey wrote: 12 Nov 2025 08:28 am Buch has been on the wrong line / in the lineup when he shouldn't be.

Sure, he can play decent defensively but he's a black hole offensively and it's obviously a mental issue at this point.

He needs to sit for a game or 2 to get refocused.

It's worked so far for pretty much every player except Mailloux (but we know why it didn't for him).

The Blues need their top billed players to score goals and carry the load offensively. I would change the topic of this to Buch instead of Snuggs. I think Snuggerud should be put in positions to succeed as others would have argued that Bolduc should have stayed there etc.

He should be played with Thomas so he is given every chance to succeed in my opinion.
With the exception of Holloway potting a couple the last 2 games, none of your skill players are scoring. Is that too much focus on defense from the forwards? Or a systemic issue with the philosophy.
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Bacchk29 wrote: 12 Nov 2025 08:33 am
dtkblueshockey wrote: 12 Nov 2025 08:28 am Buch has been on the wrong line / in the lineup when he shouldn't be.

Sure, he can play decent defensively but he's a black hole offensively and it's obviously a mental issue at this point.

He needs to sit for a game or 2 to get refocused.

It's worked so far for pretty much every player except Mailloux (but we know why it didn't for him).

The Blues need their top billed players to score goals and carry the load offensively. I would change the topic of this to Buch instead of Snuggs. I think Snuggerud should be put in positions to succeed as others would have argued that Bolduc should have stayed there etc.

He should be played with Thomas so he is given every chance to succeed in my opinion.
With the exception of Holloway potting a couple the last 2 games, none of your skill players are scoring. Is that too much focus on defense from the forwards? Or a systemic issue with the philosophy.
You bring up an interesting thought ive said the same watching Blues games. Im not sure how much throttle Monty is putting on the players in the O Zone, why arent they connecting, scoring on open shots, etc?
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DawgDad wrote: 11 Nov 2025 21:57 pm At some point Thomas and Buchnevich will wake up.
thomas got robbed last night on a roofer, and buch had one blocked from the dirty area as well.. puck luck will change
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Bacchk29 wrote: 12 Nov 2025 08:33 am
dtkblueshockey wrote: 12 Nov 2025 08:28 am Buch has been on the wrong line / in the lineup when he shouldn't be.

Sure, he can play decent defensively but he's a black hole offensively and it's obviously a mental issue at this point.

He needs to sit for a game or 2 to get refocused.

It's worked so far for pretty much every player except Mailloux (but we know why it didn't for him).

The Blues need their top billed players to score goals and carry the load offensively. I would change the topic of this to Buch instead of Snuggs. I think Snuggerud should be put in positions to succeed as others would have argued that Bolduc should have stayed there etc.

He should be played with Thomas so he is given every chance to succeed in my opinion.
With the exception of Holloway potting a couple the last 2 games, none of your skill players are scoring. Is that too much focus on defense from the forwards? Or a systemic issue with the philosophy.
I think there's a lot of reasons why specific guys aren't scoring goals. I think it varies from player to player and I don't think it's a systems or coaching issue.

If anything the coaches lately have been pushing the right buttons and the analytics for the most part have been there, the puck just isn't going in. I think to me that ultimately comes down to individual player execution....which is why I mentioned Buchnevich specifically.

I think there's also something to be said about the opposition playing generally better than the Blues as well as the psychological aspect of the Blues defeating themselves when they are playing from behind - which has been most games.
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Which coach was it that talked about looking more at pairings that work instead of whole lines? I don't think it was Monty... Maybe Berube?

If you look at it that way, I think the Thomas-Snuggy pairing is perfect. Thomas is a great playmaker with an underrated shot, Snuggy is a great shooter with underrated playmaking ability, and they both drive possession in the O zone. I feel like it's only a matter of time before they really become something; the problem is that Snuggy is still learning and they're shackled to the ball-and-chain that is Buchnevich.

I can't understand what happened to that guy. Early on in his tenure here he was a real driver on offense; he went hard to the net, had a shoot-first mentality, but also flashed some heady playmaking ability. But it's like he went through a scoring slump at some point and has never gotten out of his own head since. First he started declining to shoot anymore, now he's simply declining to do anything positive with the puck at all. I honestly can't tell if he's thinking too much or too little.

They desperately need him to figure it out, because the other dynamic duo is Holloway-Kyrou, but they're both wingers so he can't go there. And he doesn't fit on a checking line (either in ability OR salary...). He just HAS to become a positive for their top 6 to start firing on all cylinders.
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dtkblueshockey wrote: 12 Nov 2025 09:22 am
Bacchk29 wrote: 12 Nov 2025 08:33 am
dtkblueshockey wrote: 12 Nov 2025 08:28 am Buch has been on the wrong line / in the lineup when he shouldn't be.

Sure, he can play decent defensively but he's a black hole offensively and it's obviously a mental issue at this point.

He needs to sit for a game or 2 to get refocused.

It's worked so far for pretty much every player except Mailloux (but we know why it didn't for him).

The Blues need their top billed players to score goals and carry the load offensively. I would change the topic of this to Buch instead of Snuggs. I think Snuggerud should be put in positions to succeed as others would have argued that Bolduc should have stayed there etc.

He should be played with Thomas so he is given every chance to succeed in my opinion.
With the exception of Holloway potting a couple the last 2 games, none of your skill players are scoring. Is that too much focus on defense from the forwards? Or a systemic issue with the philosophy.
I think there's a lot of reasons why specific guys aren't scoring goals. I think it varies from player to player and I don't think it's a systems or coaching issue.

If anything the coaches lately have been pushing the right buttons and the analytics for the most part have been there, the puck just isn't going in. I think to me that ultimately comes down to individual player execution....which is why I mentioned Buchnevich specifically.

I think there's also something to be said about the opposition playing generally better than the Blues as well as the psychological aspect of the Blues defeating themselves when they are playing from behind - which has been most games.
Fair point. I point at the system because we change coaches but the 5 on 5 has looked the same for 15-20 years. Cycle it kick it to the point and hope it goes in off if someone’s (bleep). No creativity. It’d be nice for a forward to score goal off the rush for a change.
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