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Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 14:00 pm
by Clubmaker2
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb- ... ndictment/
Cleveland Guardians closer Emmanuel Clase and right-handed starter Luis L. Ortiz have been indicted on charges stemming from alleged gambling misconduct -- specifically manipulating bets on individual pitches.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 14:14 pm
by 45s
Likely to go much deeper…
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 14:15 pm
by bccardsfan
Many of us have been saying this was going to happen. Again, if organized gambling, or crime comes to your door with a big offer.... Or worse, perhaps one day organized crime comes to your door and tells you something might happen to your mom if you don't do this.. It is not a stretch.... MLB should divorce itself from organized gambling, not promote it in ads on MLBTV. Of course, that horse has left the barn....
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 14:18 pm
by scoutyjones2
bccardsfan wrote: ↑09 Nov 2025 14:15 pm
Many of us have been saying this was going to happen. Again, if organized gambling, or crime comes to your door with a big offer.... Or worse, perhaps one day organized crime comes to your door and tells you something might happen to your mom if you don't do this.. It is not a stretch.... MLB should divorce itself from organized gambling, not promote it in ads on MLBTV. Of course, that horse has left the barn....
That horse is out of the barn. These are adults who know the rules. I hope it ends their careers.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 14:35 pm
by Melville
As I have been saying for many years, MLB no longer knows its own product.
That has made many things inevitable.
Including this.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 15:32 pm
by Goldfan
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 15:47 pm
by Clubmaker2
About 2 weeks since the Portland trailblazers head coach was arrested...... surely the folks getting caught are the only ones doing it lol
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:04 pm
by Jatalk
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2025 14:18 pm
bccardsfan wrote: ↑09 Nov 2025 14:15 pm
Many of us have been saying this was going to happen. Again, if organized gambling, or crime comes to your door with a big offer.... Or worse, perhaps one day organized crime comes to your door and tells you something might happen to your mom if you don't do this.. It is not a stretch.... MLB should divorce itself from organized gambling, not promote it in ads on MLBTV. Of course, that horse has left the barn....
That horse is out of the barn. These are adults who know the rules. I hope it ends their careers.
You are correct. Prop bets are a serious issue but the horse is out of the barn. Therefore punishment must be severe. Prison, bans from playing. Got to make examples of those involved.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:05 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Like anything else out there today, these billionaires care much more about enriching themselves by any means necessary than they do the actual product that they are putting out, or the people who work for them.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:08 pm
by Absolut
Fan duel televised the games.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:11 pm
by ramfandan
Clubmaker2 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2025 15:47 pm
About 2 weeks since the Portland trailblazers head coach was arrested...... surely the folks getting caught are the only ones doing it lol
Yes, like when my buddy was pulled over by the state troopers in Illinois on interstate I -55 . He said to the cop , 'I was just going the same speed aor less tha nall the other ones and some were passing me. Why didn't you pull them over ? Cop replied , Because I can only stop one at a time right now and you were the one !
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:13 pm
by CCard
bccardsfan wrote: ↑09 Nov 2025 14:15 pm
Many of us have been saying this was going to happen. Again, if organized gambling, or crime comes to your door with a big offer.... Or worse, perhaps one day organized crime comes to your door and tells you something might happen to your mom if you don't do this.. It is not a stretch.... MLB should divorce itself from organized gambling, not promote it in ads on MLBTV. Of course, that horse has left the barn....
LOL...That's called extortion. There's a lot of that going on now days. Some people love it.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:14 pm
by ramfandan
So maybe we have the answer as to why Gorman and Walker struck out so much . They were being paid bonuses to swing and miss ! If true, they sure made a bundle in 2025. They were chasing pitches like nuts every at bat.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:15 pm
by CCard
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑09 Nov 2025 16:05 pm
Like anything else out there today, these billionaires care much more about enriching themselves by any means necessary than they do the actual product that they are putting out, or the people who work for them.
Speak the truth brother. Easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Doesn't leave much room for interpretation does it.
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:18 pm
by ramfandan
I can just see the closing arguments in the trial of the pitcher. Defense lawyer tell the journey . You don't truly think that a well paid athlete would risk up to 65 years in prison to make an alleged 5 or 7 grand. That. ridiculous . They aren't that dumb to risk that .
Prosectur follo-up to journey ' in response to the defendant attorney comments, who ever said criminals were smart ?
Re: Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling
Posted: 09 Nov 2025 16:24 pm
by nighthawk
MLB's self-inflicted greed comes home to roost.
