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Worst goals against, worst goal differential, near the bottom in offense, and they certainly look like the worst team in the league. That TNT fast-forward replay of the Caps dominating the Blues last night was one of the most demoralizing things I've ever seen. You'd think it was AI or a group of plays clipped together. I've never seen anything like that.

If you didn't know any better, you'd think they all had holes in their sticks last night. I assumed the ice must be bad in DC, because not one Blues player (except maybe Snuggs) could even carry the puck more than 10 ft without fumbling, losing, dropping, fanning on a pass, or some other sort of slip-up. But nope, ice must have been fine because the Caps sure had no issues moving the puck around hapless Blues players.

I was actually sick with infection during 2019 so I don't recall how they looked during the first half of the season when they were the worst team in the league. Did they look this bad?

EDIT- Also, the whole Binnington 900th goal puck thing. If the Blues were actually playing decent I would find it amusing. But when you're the worst team in the league and in large part because you're one of the worst goalies in the league, it kind of shows where his head is at. Clearly not in the right place.

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This is the worst team that I've seen in St. Louis - I don't remember so many blowouts or lack of effort from a team that's spending to the cap limit.
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We DID it guys!!!!!!

We are tanking!!!! Rejoice! Party! Enjoy the suckage!!
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 06 Nov 2025 10:24 am This is the worst team that I've seen in St. Louis - I don't remember so many blowouts or lack of effort from a team that's spending to the cap limit.
This isn't the worst team I've seen. There were some lean years there after the lockout and selloff. The issue with this team is this might be the worst goaltending I have ever seen. This could be lack of scoring talent too but yesterday identical plays happened on both sides of the ice 2 times. The blues had 2 uncontested dead center slot shots and the caps had 1 including 1 where he did the 180 shot. Both the caps went in, both the blues saved. Not saying that that was the ball game. Just commenting that outside of Hofer in that loss the other day where he made the breakaway save when 3-2, I don't think I've seen the Blues make a meaningful save when the team is playing a close game.

I'll put the caveat that it seemed like Binner fought off the first period really well when we played probably the worst period of hockey of the year. But the 2nd period looked much like the other games, back breakers from the start. That 900th goal was just caught sleeping thinking it wasn't going to happen.
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They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
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seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
It's not philosophy. They proved that Monday night and last season. It's mental, effort. The Blues were badly outskated and outchecked last night. Beaten to pucks and danger spots, checked, consistently losing puck battles. Little hustle, little forecheck, some lazy and careless play.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
The former players on TNT commented last night that the Blues' defensive scheme of clogging the middle of the ice isn't working because teams are just keeping the puck on the perimeter and basically passing it around at will until they find an opening.

Also doesn't help neither goalie can stop a beach ball. And I agree this team has WAY too much offensive and defensive talent to be playing this bad.

One thing's for sure, though, they need to bite the bullet and send Mailloux down and replace with Rosen or even Kessel. ANYTHING's better than a guy with a -13 +/- and 0.000000 points.

F'n pathetic and a F'n disaster
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DawgDad wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:16 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
It's not philosophy. They proved that Monday night and last season. It's mental, effort. The Blues were badly outskated and outchecked last night. Beaten to pucks and danger spots, checked, consistently losing puck battles. Little hustle, little forecheck, some lazy and careless play.
Right, there is that, which could also be fatigue related as they have played a lot of games in a short period and Washington was coming off a 4 day break. Each team is going to go through that this year with the condensed schedule.

However, last night wasn't the first game where they dealt with that, there's been more than a few games with it.

You don't have a game like you did against Edmonton and have that exact game against Dallas, and then completely (bleep) the bed defensively against Chicago, Detroit(coming off a 5 game losing streak), Washington(coming off a 4 game losing streak) looking like a peewee team with the top 4 dmen we have.

Either there has been a change in the system and they aren't processing it, or they are getting too much information and overthinking things.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
I think there are a few main things happening. We are the opposite of opportunistic on offense. We have outshot our opponents nearly every night and end up on the wrong side. Goalie play has been horrendous. but the 3rd which is an indictment on the coaching staff. I think they have totally F'd with the stuff that would allow the team to weather the storm. The top 4 are a very competent and for some reason the coaches have landed on flipping broberg and fowler, we attempted splitting faulk and fowler with tucker and kessel/mailloux. The way to stabilize the lineup is to allow people that have proven to play well together to carry the load.

Monty has said he prescribes to the "the team is supposed to operate as a unit and be interchangeable" but in a time where we have so much youth, I think this might be a mistake.
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blackinkbiz wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:22 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
The former players on TNT commented last night that the Blues' defensive scheme of clogging the middle of the ice isn't working because teams are just keeping the puck on the perimeter and basically passing it around at will until they find an opening.

Also doesn't help neither goalie can stop a beach ball. And I agree this team has WAY too much offensive and defensive talent to be playing this bad.

One thing's for sure, though, they need to bite the bullet and send Mailloux down and replace with Rosen or even Kessel. ANYTHING's better than a guy with a -13 +/- and 0.000000 points.

F'n pathetic and a F'n disaster
He was a back to back AHL all star, there isn't anything else for him to learn or accomplish down there. The only reason to send him down is to possibly help him regain some confidence (if he's actually lost any) otherwise he is far better served taking his lumps up here and sitting in the pressbox for some games getting the coaching he needs.

I agree with them, unlike our players other teams aren't afraid to shoot the puck at the net and capitalize on rebounds, so clogging the middle of the ice isn't doing much.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:26 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
I think there are a few main things happening. We are the opposite of opportunistic on offense. We have outshot our opponents nearly every night and end up on the wrong side. Goalie play has been horrendous. but the 3rd which is an indictment on the coaching staff. I think they have totally F'd with the stuff that would allow the team to weather the storm. The top 4 are a very competent and for some reason the coaches have landed on flipping broberg and fowler, we attempted splitting faulk and fowler with tucker and kessel/mailloux. The way to stabilize the lineup is to allow people that have proven to play well together to carry the load.

Monty has said he prescribes to the "the team is supposed to operate as a unit and be interchangeable" but in a time where we have so much youth, I think this might be a mistake.
At this point, if you switch things up again and get blown out in Buffalo, then its time to go back to what worked in the past and stick with it come hell or high water.

Sad thing is, you could almost see things coming together the past 3-4 games and then last night happened.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:28 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:22 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
The former players on TNT commented last night that the Blues' defensive scheme of clogging the middle of the ice isn't working because teams are just keeping the puck on the perimeter and basically passing it around at will until they find an opening.

Also doesn't help neither goalie can stop a beach ball. And I agree this team has WAY too much offensive and defensive talent to be playing this bad.

One thing's for sure, though, they need to bite the bullet and send Mailloux down and replace with Rosen or even Kessel. ANYTHING's better than a guy with a -13 +/- and 0.000000 points.

(Ef'En) pathetic and a (Ef'En) disaster
He was a back to back AHL all star, there isn't anything else for him to learn or accomplish down there. The only reason to send him down is to possibly help him regain some confidence (if he's actually lost any) otherwise he is far better served taking his lumps up here and sitting in the pressbox for some games getting the coaching he needs.

I agree with them, unlike our players other teams aren't afraid to shoot the puck at the net and capitalize on rebounds, so clogging the middle of the ice isn't doing much.
I have 0 concern with his development at the moment. Like you said, hopefully he can get some confidence, but most importantly, you just need to minimize all potential negatives from the Blues team right now. And Mailloux currently brings 0 positives.

Almost every game he plays is the same result. 0 goals, 0 assists, and a negative 2 or 3 in the +/-. If they're going to turn this ship around, it won't be because Mailloux suddenly emerged and found his potential. All he's doing is dragging the team down right now.
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blackinkbiz wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:32 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:28 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:22 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 06 Nov 2025 11:01 am They're being globetrottered on a nightly basis. It's a pitiful team to behold right now.

Thoroughly unimpressive coaching too
It's gotta be a change in defensive philosophy. I don't know that there has been one per se, but there is way too much scrambling and too many uncovered guys in the defensive zone.

Our top 4 is way too good, and our forwards are at least average to some above average defensively to allow the Caps 2:35 seconds of zone time on a single shift.
The former players on TNT commented last night that the Blues' defensive scheme of clogging the middle of the ice isn't working because teams are just keeping the puck on the perimeter and basically passing it around at will until they find an opening.

Also doesn't help neither goalie can stop a beach ball. And I agree this team has WAY too much offensive and defensive talent to be playing this bad.

One thing's for sure, though, they need to bite the bullet and send Mailloux down and replace with Rosen or even Kessel. ANYTHING's better than a guy with a -13 +/- and 0.000000 points.

(Ef'En) pathetic and a (Ef'En) disaster
He was a back to back AHL all star, there isn't anything else for him to learn or accomplish down there. The only reason to send him down is to possibly help him regain some confidence (if he's actually lost any) otherwise he is far better served taking his lumps up here and sitting in the pressbox for some games getting the coaching he needs.

I agree with them, unlike our players other teams aren't afraid to shoot the puck at the net and capitalize on rebounds, so clogging the middle of the ice isn't doing much.
I have 0 concern with his development at the moment. Like you said, hopefully he can get some confidence, but most importantly, you just need to minimize all potential negatives from the Blues team right now. And Mailloux currently brings 0 positives.

Almost every game he plays is the same result. 0 goals, 0 assists, and a negative 2 or 3 in the +/-. If they're going to turn this ship around, it won't be because Mailloux suddenly emerged and found his potential. All he's doing is dragging the team down right now.
Mailloux is not the problem dragging the team down. And if he turns his game around he's not the solution. This is a TEAM issue.

The deal is to give him the rope he needs to see if he comes around and develops into what they thought they traded for. Only TOI up here can do that.

Maybe they send him down as you say but that's the strategy if they keep him up.
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Once upon a time....
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well if ellis gets put on waivers we get him back
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