ASOGG predicted it - Now you hear it from Montgomery

[a smell of green grass]

First ASOGG predicted that the team of Jan 2025 would return fast this season.

Then just prior to the season, his sock puppet, Army, told you that the late win streak meant nothing,.

And now Montgomery has made it official. "Same thing as last year". The team of Jan 2025 is back, sports fans.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/673845 ... ontgomery/

[TBone]

[DoneLurking]

First ASOGG predicted that the team of Jan 2025 would return fast this season.

Then just prior to the season, his sock puppet, Army, told you that the late win streak meant nothing,.

And now Montgomery has made it official. "Same thing as last year". The team of Jan 2025 is back, sports fans.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/673845 ... ontgomery/

Well that team turned it around and made the playoffs, and you promised to leave the forum.

[keithinwr]

TBone you nailed him again. He is so easy to make fun of.

[a smell of green grass]

I know that I have hit the most truth when the nastiness comes out.

[Bubble4427]

I know that I have hit the most truth when the nastiness comes out.

You consider that nasty?
Seems to me that you know as little about posters as you do about hockey.

[Aesa]

I know that I have hit the most truth when the nastiness comes out.

You consider that nasty?
Seems to me that you know as little about posters as you do about hockey.

All he knows is his gigantic ego.

[sdaltons]

I know that I have hit the most truth when the nastiness comes out.

You consider that nasty?
Seems to me that you know as little about posters as you do about hockey.

All he knows is his gigantic ego.

It's a wonder it even has time to post here considering all 32 teams must spend all day begging it to come be their GM.

[HazeGray977]

First ASOGG predicted that the team of Jan 2025 would return fast this season.

Then just prior to the season, his sock puppet, Army, told you that the late win streak meant nothing,.

And now Montgomery has made it official. "Same thing as last year". The team of Jan 2025 is back, sports fans.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/673845 ... ontgomery/

Posting in 3rd person???.....narcissistic much? maybe a little psycho??.....

[a smell of green grass]

First ASOGG predicted that the team of Jan 2025 would return fast this season.

Then just prior to the season, his sock puppet, Army, told you that the late win streak meant nothing,.

And now Montgomery has made it official. "Same thing as last year". The team of Jan 2025 is back, sports fans.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/673845 ... ontgomery/

Posting in 3rd person???.....narcissistic much? maybe a little psycho??.....

Messengers in history are always considered psychos and worse. It comes with the job.

[AtillaTheBlue1]

1 thing that helps blues, is all of these 2 in 3 days, games for evewryone.

younger team will be a lot fresher for 2nd half of season.


even in the nba, which is a grind, 2 out of 3's begin to wear as season gets later.

[DoneLurking]

I know that I have hit the most truth when the nastiness comes out.

Let's talk truth, eh?

TRUTH: Doug Armstrong has never said anything resembling "I don't want to pick any earlier than 15th," or " We are afraid to pick in the top 5." You have never supplied an actual quote that says otherwise, but it doesn't stop you from repeating it, multiple times a day.

TRUTH: Being picked in the top 5 does not guarantee stardom for a player. Just ask: Jack Johnson, Benoit Pouliot, (05) Kyle Turris, Thomas Hickey, Karl Alzner (07), Zac Bogosian, Luke Schenn (08), Eric Gudbranson, Nino Neiderreiter (10), Adam Larsson, Ryan Strome (11), Nail Yakupov, Ryan Murray, Alex Galchenyuk, Griffin Reinhart (12), Johnathan Drouin (13), Michael Dal Colle (14), Dylan Strome (15), Jesse Puljujarvi, Olli Juolevi (16), Nolan Patrick (17), Jesperi Kotkianemi (18), Kaapo Kakko, Kirby Dach, Alex Turcotte (19), Alexis Lafreniere (20).

In fact, in those 16 years, roughly 1/3 of the top 5 picks in each draft failed to turn into superstars.

TRUTH: A top 5 pick on his own does not significantly aid a team in their Stanley Cup pursuit. Nor are they more likely to win the Conn Smythe In the cap era, the list of Conn Smythe winners by draft position Top 5 or not Top 5 is as follows
NOT TOP 5: 9 players
TOP 5: 11 players.

A Top 5 pick is only slightly more likely to win the Conn Smythe, But since one of those 11 was actually a losing player in McDavid,, it's 9 versus 10 for cup winning Conn Smythe winners.

TRUTH: High picks who immediately play in the NHL are not guaranteed to have superstar careers. For example: Zac Bogosian, Luke Schenn, both played in the fall after they were drafted.

TRUTH: High picks who need time to mature are not guaranteed to be busts. Alex Pietrangelo needed two seasons of junior hockey after his draft year to gain weight and muscle.

TRUTH: You're presenting dumb arguments, and I'm dumb for continuing to engage in this pointless effort.

TRUTH: You promised that if the Blues made the playoffs last year, you would leave the forum.

[a smell of green grass]

I know that I have hit the most truth when the nastiness comes out.

Let's talk truth, eh?

TRUTH: Doug Armstrong has never said anything resembling "I don't want to pick any earlier than 15th," or " We are afraid to pick in the top 5." You have never supplied an actual quote that says otherwise, but it doesn't stop you from repeating it, multiple times a day.

TRUTH: Being picked in the top 5 does not guarantee stardom for a player. Just ask: Jack Johnson, Benoit Pouliot, (05) Kyle Turris, Thomas Hickey, Karl Alzner (07), Zac Bogosian, Luke Schenn (08), Eric Gudbranson, Nino Neiderreiter (10), Adam Larsson, Ryan Strome (11), Nail Yakupov, Ryan Murray, Alex Galchenyuk, Griffin Reinhart (12), Johnathan Drouin (13), Michael Dal Colle (14), Dylan Strome (15), Jesse Puljujarvi, Olli Juolevi (16), Nolan Patrick (17), Jesperi Kotkianemi (18), Kaapo Kakko, Kirby Dach, Alex Turcotte (19), Alexis Lafreniere (20).

In fact, in those 16 years, roughly 1/3 of the top 5 picks in each draft failed to turn into superstars.

TRUTH: A top 5 pick on his own does not significantly aid a team in their Stanley Cup pursuit. Nor are they more likely to win the Conn Smythe In the cap era, the list of Conn Smythe winners by draft position Top 5 or not Top 5 is as follows
NOT TOP 5: 9 players
TOP 5: 11 players.

A Top 5 pick is only slightly more likely to win the Conn Smythe, But since one of those 11 was actually a losing player in McDavid,, it's 9 versus 10 for cup winning Conn Smythe winners.

TRUTH: High picks who immediately play in the NHL are not guaranteed to have superstar careers. For example: Zac Bogosian, Luke Schenn, both played in the fall after they were drafted.

TRUTH: High picks who need time to mature are not guaranteed to be busts. Alex Pietrangelo needed two seasons of junior hockey after his draft year to gain weight and muscle.

TRUTH: You're presenting dumb arguments, and I'm dumb for continuing to engage in this pointless effort.

TRUTH: You promised that if the Blues made the playoffs last year, you would leave the forum.

Did a search on "douglas armstrong nhl draft"

2025 NHL Draft: Armstrong discussed the team's approach, noting they had three selections and were confident in their scouts to find players in the range of their typical pick, around the 19th overall spot. He highlighted the selection of Justin Carbonneau, a goal-scoring forward, as a move to add scoring depth.

Trust in scouting. Armstrong has repeatedly emphasized his confidence in the Blues' scouting staff to find valuable players later in the draft. The organization has had consistent success finding quality players from the middle to late rounds, including Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou, whom they selected with the 20th and 35th overall picks, respectively.

I know that Armstrong claimed that the Blues want to always pick around 15 etc.

Truth: When a GM selects HIGH there is much more risk of being criticized. Missing on one of those picks is very noticed. Armstrong has never picked HIGH. As a result, his skills at scouting and player potential have never been tested. Army is the crowned heavyweight champion that has never went into the ring.

Truth: Army credits Kyrou, Thomas, and Parayko as proof that he drafts well. Anybody notice how absent Thomas and Kyrou are in the big games? Anybody notice that Parayko was OUT for the win streak? Army doesn't draft well. He is average at best. One look at the roster tells you how much value that Army has directly added to the roster via the NHL draft.

Truth: The longer it takes for a prospect to make the NHL ice, the less of an impact they will bring.

Truth: EVERY TEAM/CITY understands the value of having truly elite players -- EXCEPT the Blues. Florida and Edmonton have 2 TOP5 picks.

Truth: Drafting high does not guarantee success. Drafting low does not guarantee failure. Ignoring the direct value that the GM is adding to the team via the draft is ignoring the biggest part of their job. I don't see the next Stanley Cup arising from Thomas, Kyrou, and Parayko. I don't even see an AHL cup arising from Dvorsky, Stenberg and Lindstein. I see average at best.

[netboy65]

I know that I have hit the most truth when the nastiness comes out.

Let's talk truth, eh?

TRUTH: Doug Armstrong has never said anything resembling "I don't want to pick any earlier than 15th," or " We are afraid to pick in the top 5." You have never supplied an actual quote that says otherwise, but it doesn't stop you from repeating it, multiple times a day.

TRUTH: Being picked in the top 5 does not guarantee stardom for a player. Just ask: Jack Johnson, Benoit Pouliot, (05) Kyle Turris, Thomas Hickey, Karl Alzner (07), Zac Bogosian, Luke Schenn (08), Eric Gudbranson, Nino Neiderreiter (10), Adam Larsson, Ryan Strome (11), Nail Yakupov, Ryan Murray, Alex Galchenyuk, Griffin Reinhart (12), Johnathan Drouin (13), Michael Dal Colle (14), Dylan Strome (15), Jesse Puljujarvi, Olli Juolevi (16), Nolan Patrick (17), Jesperi Kotkianemi (18), Kaapo Kakko, Kirby Dach, Alex Turcotte (19), Alexis Lafreniere (20).

In fact, in those 16 years, roughly 1/3 of the top 5 picks in each draft failed to turn into superstars.

TRUTH: A top 5 pick on his own does not significantly aid a team in their Stanley Cup pursuit. Nor are they more likely to win the Conn Smythe In the cap era, the list of Conn Smythe winners by draft position Top 5 or not Top 5 is as follows
NOT TOP 5: 9 players
TOP 5: 11 players.

A Top 5 pick is only slightly more likely to win the Conn Smythe, But since one of those 11 was actually a losing player in McDavid,, it's 9 versus 10 for cup winning Conn Smythe winners.

TRUTH: High picks who immediately play in the NHL are not guaranteed to have superstar careers. For example: Zac Bogosian, Luke Schenn, both played in the fall after they were drafted.

TRUTH: High picks who need time to mature are not guaranteed to be busts. Alex Pietrangelo needed two seasons of junior hockey after his draft year to gain weight and muscle.

TRUTH: You're presenting dumb arguments, and I'm dumb for continuing to engage in this pointless effort.

TRUTH: You promised that if the Blues made the playoffs last year, you would leave the forum.

Did a search on "douglas armstrong nhl draft"

2025 NHL Draft: Armstrong discussed the team's approach, noting they had three selections and were confident in their scouts to find players in the range of their typical pick, around the 19th overall spot. He highlighted the selection of Justin Carbonneau, a goal-scoring forward, as a move to add scoring depth.

Trust in scouting. Armstrong has repeatedly emphasized his confidence in the Blues' scouting staff to find valuable players later in the draft. The organization has had consistent success finding quality players from the middle to late rounds, including Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou, whom they selected with the 20th and 35th overall picks, respectively.

I know that Armstrong claimed that the Blues want to always pick around 15 etc.

Truth: When a GM selects HIGH there is much more risk of being criticized. Missing on one of those picks is very noticed. Armstrong has never picked HIGH. As a result, his skills at scouting and player potential have never been tested. Army is the crowned heavyweight champion that has never went into the ring.

Truth: Army credits Kyrou, Thomas, and Parayko as proof that he drafts well. Anybody notice how absent Thomas and Kyrou are in the big games? Anybody notice that Parayko was OUT for the win streak? Army doesn't draft well. He is average at best. One look at the roster tells you how much value that Army has directly added to the roster via the NHL draft.

Truth: The longer it takes for a prospect to make the NHL ice, the less of an impact they will bring.

Truth: EVERY TEAM/CITY understands the value of having truly elite players -- EXCEPT the Blues. Florida and Edmonton have 2 TOP5 picks.

Truth: Drafting high does not guarantee success. Drafting low does not guarantee failure. Ignoring the direct value that the GM is adding to the team via the draft is ignoring the biggest part of their job. I don't see the next Stanley Cup arising from Thomas, Kyrou, and Parayko. I don't even see an AHL cup arising from Dvorsky, Stenberg and Lindstein. I see average at best.

Ah, there you go throwing around the word EVERY again.
Last time you claimed, oh I meant every playoff team, but yet you constantly say every team as if there were 31 other teams picking top 5 except the Blues.
Parayko was hurt during the streak but was around in ‘19 wasn’t he?

[DoneLurking]

I know that I have hit the most truth when the nastiness comes out.

Let's talk truth, eh?

TRUTH: Doug Armstrong has never said anything resembling "I don't want to pick any earlier than 15th," or " We are afraid to pick in the top 5." You have never supplied an actual quote that says otherwise, but it doesn't stop you from repeating it, multiple times a day.

TRUTH: Being picked in the top 5 does not guarantee stardom for a player. Just ask: Jack Johnson, Benoit Pouliot, (05) Kyle Turris, Thomas Hickey, Karl Alzner (07), Zac Bogosian, Luke Schenn (08), Eric Gudbranson, Nino Neiderreiter (10), Adam Larsson, Ryan Strome (11), Nail Yakupov, Ryan Murray, Alex Galchenyuk, Griffin Reinhart (12), Johnathan Drouin (13), Michael Dal Colle (14), Dylan Strome (15), Jesse Puljujarvi, Olli Juolevi (16), Nolan Patrick (17), Jesperi Kotkianemi (18), Kaapo Kakko, Kirby Dach, Alex Turcotte (19), Alexis Lafreniere (20).

In fact, in those 16 years, roughly 1/3 of the top 5 picks in each draft failed to turn into superstars.

TRUTH: A top 5 pick on his own does not significantly aid a team in their Stanley Cup pursuit. Nor are they more likely to win the Conn Smythe In the cap era, the list of Conn Smythe winners by draft position Top 5 or not Top 5 is as follows
NOT TOP 5: 9 players
TOP 5: 11 players.

A Top 5 pick is only slightly more likely to win the Conn Smythe, But since one of those 11 was actually a losing player in McDavid,, it's 9 versus 10 for cup winning Conn Smythe winners.

TRUTH: High picks who immediately play in the NHL are not guaranteed to have superstar careers. For example: Zac Bogosian, Luke Schenn, both played in the fall after they were drafted.

TRUTH: High picks who need time to mature are not guaranteed to be busts. Alex Pietrangelo needed two seasons of junior hockey after his draft year to gain weight and muscle.

TRUTH: You're presenting dumb arguments, and I'm dumb for continuing to engage in this pointless effort.

TRUTH: You promised that if the Blues made the playoffs last year, you would leave the forum.

Did a search on "douglas armstrong nhl draft"

2025 NHL Draft: Armstrong discussed the team's approach, noting they had three selections and were confident in their scouts to find players in the range of their typical pick, around the 19th overall spot. He highlighted the selection of Justin Carbonneau, a goal-scoring forward, as a move to add scoring depth.

Trust in scouting. Armstrong has repeatedly emphasized his confidence in the Blues' scouting staff to find valuable players later in the draft. The organization has had consistent success finding quality players from the middle to late rounds, including Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou, whom they selected with the 20th and 35th overall picks, respectively.

Saying that he trusts the scouting staff does not even remotely imply that he always wants to pick around 15.

I know that Armstrong claimed that the Blues want to always pick around 15 etc.

If you know this, you could find the quote. Everything you've posted here presents a theory you have, and does not really support it.

Truth: When a GM selects HIGH there is much more risk of being criticized. Missing on one of those picks is very noticed. Armstrong has never picked HIGH. As a result, his skills at scouting and player potential have never been tested. Army is the crowned heavyweight champion that has never went into the ring.

Instead of being due to his consistent winning records, you believe this is because Armstrong is afraid of picking high in the draft. You know it to be true, but you have no evidence besides "trust me bro."

Truth: Army credits Kyrou, Thomas, and Parayko as proof that he drafts well. Anybody notice how absent Thomas and Kyrou are in the big games? Anybody notice that Parayko was OUT for the win streak? Army doesn't draft well. He is average at best. One look at the roster tells you how much value that Army has directly added to the roster via the NHL draft.

Despite being picked 35th 2016, Jordan Kyrou is 9th in his draft class in scoring. It should be noted that Kyrou took four seasons to earn a full-time NHL spot and still has produced well above his draft slot. Despite being picked 20th in 2017, Robert Thomas is FIFTH in his draft class in scoring. Despite being picked 86th in 2012, Colton Parayko is 14th in his draft class in scoring and 7th among defensemen taken that year. Drafting players who produce well above their draft positions is the definition of drafting well.

Truth: The longer it takes for a prospect to make the NHL ice, the less of an impact they will bring.

See the Jordan Kyrou example above. Without providing an exhaustive list, of the defensemen taken in the first round in 2008, only Jake Gardiner took longer to secure a regular lineup spot on an NHL team than Alex Pietrangelo. You are welcome to provide controvertible evidence, but I know you'll instead spout your opinion as if it carries more weight than provable facts.

Truth: EVERY TEAM/CITY understands the value of having truly elite players -- EXCEPT the Blues. Florida and Edmonton have 2 TOP5 picks.

Off the top of my head so there may be more, so do the Maple Leafs, Sabres, Ducks, Blue Jackets, Senators, Canucks, Devils, Mammoth, Kraken, and Sharks. The Red Wings at one point had Lucas Raymond and Filip Zadina. The Oilers have not yet won the Cup despite having their 2 top5 picks for a decade now.

Truth: Drafting high does not guarantee success. Drafting low does not guarantee failure. Ignoring the direct value that the GM is adding to the team via the draft is ignoring the biggest part of their job. I don't see the next Stanley Cup arising from Thomas, Kyrou, and Parayko. I don't even see an AHL cup arising from Dvorsky, Stenberg and Lindstein. I see average at best.
It's true you say that, but that's not a universal truth. In fact, it is true that you said you'd leave the forum after the Blues made the playoffs last year then you didn't, so what you say tends to not be true after all.

[11WSChamps]

I thought the season just started.