Cardinals core players

[redbirdfan51]

I think Bloom will consider position players Winn, Wetherholt, Herrera, Scott and Crooks as off limits in trades. I also think he would be reluctant to move Walker. This will be a pivotal year for both Walker and Gorman, with the latter not off limits. Either Bloom extends Donovan or shops him. Winn should should also be extended. Pitchers McGreevy and Libertore are the only off limit to trade pitchers. Lib should also be extended. Just some thoughts.

[Talkin' Baseball]

I think Bloom will consider position players Winn, Wetherholt, Herrera, Scott and Crooks as off limits in trades. I also think he would be reluctant to move Walker. This will be a pivotal year for both Walker and Gorman, with the latter not off limits. Either Bloom extends Donovan or shops him. Winn should should also be extended. Pitchers McGreevy and Libertore are the only off limit to trade pitchers. Lib should also be extended. Just some thoughts.

Not being nasty, honestly curious- why do you think Crooks would be included on a list of core players? I believe Crooks will be a solid major league player, and if he was the best the Cardinals had I would be content with that, but it's quite possible that Bernal and Rodriguez are better than him, and some may count Herrera as a catcher (I don't) and he would be above Crooks on the depth chart. Fourth on the depth chart in your own organization doesn't say "core" to me. If it's up to me, I'm leaving him off the list of core players. I'm interested in your thoughts on the subject.

[Ozziesfan41]

I don’t see how they go into another season with both Gorman and walker in the lineup they both suck and are automatic outs and had their runways to prove how much they suck. I get they arent planning on winning next season but keeping both of them is intentionally losing

[scoutyjones2]

Also, Crooks is rule 5 eligible

I see no core outside of Doyle and JJ

I'm listening to all offers for anyone. That doesn't imply you give others away.

[Jatalk]

I think Bloom will consider position players Winn, Wetherholt, Herrera, Scott and Crooks as off limits in trades. I also think he would be reluctant to move Walker. This will be a pivotal year for both Walker and Gorman, with the latter not off limits. Either Bloom extends Donovan or shops him. Winn should should also be extended. Pitchers McGreevy and Libertore are the only off limit to trade pitchers. Lib should also be extended. Just some thoughts.

Sort of disagree. Especially on IH, Scott and Crooks. Also I thought this year was the critical year for Gorman and Walker? Donovan and Winn are core players and I hope both stay but honestly no one is off limits for the right deal.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

[Talkin' Baseball]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

I believe there is zero percent chance that the players listed here are traded this offseason. I would add Doyle, Rodriguez, and Herrera to that list.

[Goldfan]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

I believe there is zero percent chance that the players listed here are traded this offseason. I would add Doyle, Rodriguez, and Herrera to that list.

Just curious, what do you think the return for .216 hitting CF is?

[sikeston bulldog2]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

I believe there is zero percent chance that the players listed here are traded this offseason. I would add Doyle, Rodriguez, and Herrera to that list.

Just curious, what do you think the return for .216 hitting CF is?

Nothing. That’s the good news. He can only get better. Then we will have something. Can’t get worse.

[Goldfan]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

I believe there is zero percent chance that the players listed here are traded this offseason. I would add Doyle, Rodriguez, and Herrera to that list.

Just curious, what do you think the return for .216 hitting CF is?

Nothing. That’s the good news. He can only get better. Then we will have something. Can’t get worse.

I’m not sure he’ll be more than he is. If the team can put offense at the corner OF spots he could be carried for his CF D…..but beyond that I don’t think he’s a “keeper”

[sikeston bulldog2]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

I believe there is zero percent chance that the players listed here are traded this offseason. I would add Doyle, Rodriguez, and Herrera to that list.

Just curious, what do you think the return for .216 hitting CF is?

Nothing. That’s the good news. He can only get better. Then we will have something. Can’t get worse.

I’m not sure he’ll be more than he is. If the team can put offense at the corner OF spots he could be carried for his CF D…..but beyond that I don’t think he’s a “keeper”

I hear ya. But you gotta love super D at a premium position, and speed, although not fully developed or utilized. I see much more potential that I do down side. As mentioned, heck I think he’s gotta be at rock bottom. Gotta be.

[Talkin' Baseball]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

I believe there is zero percent chance that the players listed here are traded this offseason. I would add Doyle, Rodriguez, and Herrera to that list.

Just curious, what do you think the return for .216 hitting CF is?

I'm not calling Scott a core player at all. I just think there is no chance he is traded this winter. They can't do everything first. There are more glaring issues than him at the moment and there is no ready replacement, so they will deal with other things first. If he doesn't improve, they will get around to him.

[Goldfan]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

I believe there is zero percent chance that the players listed here are traded this offseason. I would add Doyle, Rodriguez, and Herrera to that list.

Just curious, what do you think the return for .216 hitting CF is?

I'm not calling Scott a core player at all. I just think there is no chance he is traded this winter. They can't do everything first. There are more glaring issues than him at the moment and there is no ready replacement, so they will deal with other things first. If he doesn't improve, they will get around to him.

Is he better than Siani?

[CorneliusWolfe]

Only two and they are maybe’s: Winn and Liberatore. They are not superstars but they fill much needed roles pretty well and are still young so hopefully will get better. Not every core players is a star, and I think these two will at least be solid.

The rest are prospects who are candidates to become core players. Half of these names will end up being worthless, but probably shouldn’t trade yet: Wetherholt, Doyle, Raniel, Baez, Mathews, and whoever the best two catchers are.

In summary, not a good situation. This team needs to go shopping.

[Talkin' Baseball]

I think with Scott and Winn as GG finalists, I’d add JJ, Libby, McG, and form a solid young core.

I believe there is zero percent chance that the players listed here are traded this offseason. I would add Doyle, Rodriguez, and Herrera to that list.

Just curious, what do you think the return for .216 hitting CF is?

I'm not calling Scott a core player at all. I just think there is no chance he is traded this winter. They can't do everything first. There are more glaring issues than him at the moment and there is no ready replacement, so they will deal with other things first. If he doesn't improve, they will get around to him.

Is he better than Siani?

If I had to choose between Scott and Siani, I would take Scott. How about you?

[An Old Friend]

Also, Crooks is rule 5 eligible

He’s already rostered