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Bill & Chaim,
Please note the following fact from the Cubs-Brewers game today.

The Cubs have 3 HR’s and are losing 9-3.

The Brewers have ZERO HR’s and are winning 9-3.

Conclusion: You don’t have to blindly swing for the fences like so many Cardinal hitters to score lots of runs, win games, be exciting, and fill the seats with paying butts.

Bonus history lesson: Tommy Herr had 110 RBI’s on only 8 HR’s in the Cardinals pennant winning season in 1985. Busch Stadium was packed with paying fannies in those days.

So there’s your fricken “business case”. Now go execute it.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 15:56 pm Bill & Chaim,
Please note the following fact from the Cubs-Brewers game today.

The Cubs have 3 HR’s and are losing 9-3.

The Brewers have ZERO HR’s and are winning 9-3.

Conclusion: You don’t have to blindly swing for the fences like so many Cardinal hitters to score lots of runs, win games, be exciting, and fill the seats with paying butts.

Bonus history lesson: Tommy Herr had 110 RBI’s on only 8 HR’s in the Cardinals pennant winning season in 1985. Busch Stadium was packed with paying fannies in those days.

So there’s your fricken “business case”. Now go execute it.
Amen. Dave Winfield made the HOF and never hit more than 30 home runs 3 times in his career. This desire to create guys who hit 50 HR's per year should be abandoned and they should have all players play to their strengths, not to the strengths the front office desires.
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Agree
Give me clutch with RISP and you can shove the HR’s!
I remember the Royals last WS team being very deep in solid hitters but not any real bombers?
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Burleson, Donovan, and Herrera all should have fairly high BAs next season. Add JJ to the mix, and hopefully Winn and Contreras will be there too. Just need to hit in the clutch, and not swing for the fences all the time.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 15:56 pm Bill & Chaim,
Please note the following fact from the Cubs-Brewers game today.

The Cubs have 3 HR’s and are losing 9-3.

The Brewers have ZERO HR’s and are winning 9-3.

Conclusion: You don’t have to blindly swing for the fences like so many Cardinal hitters to score lots of runs, win games, be exciting, and fill the seats with paying butts.

Bonus history lesson: Tommy Herr had 110 RBI’s on only 8 HR’s in the Cardinals pennant winning season in 1985. Busch Stadium was packed with paying fannies in those days.

So there’s your fricken “business case”. Now go execute it.
I agree that the Cardinals should not try to assemble a lineup of all or nothing type HR sluggers. They play in a pitcher's park, and should concentrate on getting a group of line drive hitting, high average batters.

I loved the '85 Running Redbirds, but that team is almost impossible to replicate successfully today. In 1985, the Cardinals played 120 of their 162 games on artificial turf. There are only five current MLB parks with artificial turf, and only two are in the National League. That team had contact hitters, great speed, stole more bases than any NL team since the deadball era, and had FIVE switch hitters in the starting lineup.
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Go find a Pete Guerrero rbi machine!
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Our team leader had 20 home runs last year. If that was their effort to swing for the fences then I don't know what to tell you.
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C-Unit wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:19 pm Our team leader had 20 home runs last year. If that was their effort to swing for the fences then I don't know what to tell you.
Hi C-Unit!

Sadly, it tells me that our hitters were so inept that they couldn’t execute what the Mozo Method wanted from them.

Just because they didn’t hit many HR’s doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to.

Ever since Matt Carpenter continually refused to slap the ball through the shortstop hole against the shift, this franchise has shown they have no desire to play any small ball whatsoever. That philosophy clearly has been dictated from the top, which was Mozo the Clown.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:26 pm
C-Unit wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:19 pm Our team leader had 20 home runs last year. If that was their effort to swing for the fences then I don't know what to tell you.
Hi C-Unit!

Sadly, it tells me that our hitters were so inept that they couldn’t execute what the Mozo Method wanted from them.

Just because they didn’t hit many HR’s doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to.

Ever since Matt Carpenter continually refused to slap the ball through the shortstop hole against the shift, this franchise has shown they have no desire to play any small ball whatsoever. That philosophy clearly has been dictated from the top, which was Mozo the Clown.

"Mozo the Clown" is childish, Hazelwood. How old are you?
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Hoping for players to suddenly become productive is not a plan...sounds like part of a Mo-ran legacy.
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Cranny wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:26 pm
C-Unit wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:19 pm Our team leader had 20 home runs last year. If that was their effort to swing for the fences then I don't know what to tell you.
Hi C-Unit!

Sadly, it tells me that our hitters were so inept that they couldn’t execute what the Mozo Method wanted from them.

Just because they didn’t hit many HR’s doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to.

Ever since Matt Carpenter continually refused to slap the ball through the shortstop hole against the shift, this franchise has shown they have no desire to play any small ball whatsoever. That philosophy clearly has been dictated from the top, which was Mozo the Clown.

"Mozo the Clown" is childish, Hazelwood. How old are you?
He’s a clown and deserves all the accolades and benefits his clowndom deserves.

Stop being the Cards Talk scold, you putz. How old are you?
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Cranny wrote: 04 Oct 2025 18:57 pm Burleson, Donovan, and Herrera all should have fairly high BAs next season. Add JJ to the mix, and hopefully Winn and Contreras will be there too. Just need to hit in the clutch, and not swing for the fences all the time.
The first three are all good hitters but they dont have any real speed. It will still be hard to score runs without power with a team od station to station baserunners.
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cardsrmyteam wrote: 04 Oct 2025 18:43 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 15:56 pm Bill & Chaim,
Please note the following fact from the Cubs-Brewers game today.

The Cubs have 3 HR’s and are losing 9-3.

The Brewers have ZERO HR’s and are winning 9-3.

Conclusion: You don’t have to blindly swing for the fences like so many Cardinal hitters to score lots of runs, win games, be exciting, and fill the seats with paying butts.

Bonus history lesson: Tommy Herr had 110 RBI’s on only 8 HR’s in the Cardinals pennant winning season in 1985. Busch Stadium was packed with paying fannies in those days.

So there’s your fricken “business case”. Now go execute it.
Amen. Dave Winfield made the HOF and never hit more than 30 home runs 3 times in his career. This desire to create guys who hit 50 HR's per year should be abandoned and they should have all players play to their strengths, not to the strengths the front office desires.
It really does seem like they’re trying to do that. Jordan Walker looked very promising until they made him obsessive about launch angles. Glad Matt Holiday never bought in to that theory. He was fine with hitting 115 mph grounders that infielders couldn’t handle.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:26 pm
C-Unit wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:19 pm Our team leader had 20 home runs last year. If that was their effort to swing for the fences then I don't know what to tell you.
Hi C-Unit!

Sadly, it tells me that our hitters were so inept that they couldn’t execute what the Mozo Method wanted from them.

Just because they didn’t hit many HR’s doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to.

Ever since Matt Carpenter continually refused to slap the ball through the shortstop hole against the shift, this franchise has shown they have no desire to play any small ball whatsoever. That philosophy clearly has been dictated from the top, which was Mozo the Clown.
+1...Mo-ran was a clown...the vast majority of fans recognized that...except for a few front office (donkey) kissers!
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cardsrmyteam wrote: 04 Oct 2025 18:43 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 15:56 pm Bill & Chaim,
Please note the following fact from the Cubs-Brewers game today.

The Cubs have 3 HR’s and are losing 9-3.

The Brewers have ZERO HR’s and are winning 9-3.

Conclusion: You don’t have to blindly swing for the fences like so many Cardinal hitters to score lots of runs, win games, be exciting, and fill the seats with paying butts.

Bonus history lesson: Tommy Herr had 110 RBI’s on only 8 HR’s in the Cardinals pennant winning season in 1985. Busch Stadium was packed with paying fannies in those days.

So there’s your fricken “business case”. Now go execute it.
Amen. Dave Winfield made the HOF and never hit more than 30 home runs 3 times in his career. This desire to create guys who hit 50 HR's per year should be abandoned and they should have all players play to their strengths, not to the strengths the front office desires.
Massive strawman. Name any recent draft pick who was hoped to become a 50 HR hitter???

Meanwhile the Yankees are doing fine with Judge. Though it wasn’t enough that he hit 2 singles while the Blue Jays hit 3 HRs.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:34 pm
Cranny wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:26 pm
C-Unit wrote: 04 Oct 2025 19:19 pm Our team leader had 20 home runs last year. If that was their effort to swing for the fences then I don't know what to tell you.
Hi C-Unit!

Sadly, it tells me that our hitters were so inept that they couldn’t execute what the Mozo Method wanted from them.

Just because they didn’t hit many HR’s doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to.

Ever since Matt Carpenter continually refused to slap the ball through the shortstop hole against the shift, this franchise has shown they have no desire to play any small ball whatsoever. That philosophy clearly has been dictated from the top, which was Mozo the Clown.

"Mozo the Clown" is childish, Hazelwood. How old are you?
He’s a clown and deserves all the accolades and benefits his clowndom deserves.

Stop being the Cards Talk scold, you putz. How old are you?
A lot older than you, Hazelwood, and have seen way too many people who judge others like you do. Do others judge you the same way? And “mozo the clown” is truly junior high playground stuff.
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