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BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm
by rockondlouie
.....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:19 pm
by dugoutrex
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
but ... that is money that will not be put back into the roster

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
by ForumPolice
His loyalty to Mo never made sense to me because Bill likes money and Mo and his horrible signings cost him untold millions and continues to do so

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:22 pm
by bccardsfan
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
I will believe this when I see it......

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:24 pm
by Southern Illinois
dugoutrex wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:19 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
but ... that is money that will not be put back into the roster
Are you saying the better return of young players as a result of using money to sweeten a deal isn’t using money on the roster? I would argue it might be the smartest money.

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:25 pm
by dugoutrex
Southern Illinois wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:24 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:19 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
but ... that is money that will not be put back into the roster
Are you saying the better return of young players as a result of using money to sweeten a deal isn’t using money on the roster? I would argue it might be the smartest money.
no doubt - just pointing out the obvious for the simps on here, if we eat 30 million on Gray and Nado the rest of our payroll will be under 90 million imo

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:42 pm
by renostl
dugoutrex wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:25 pm
Southern Illinois wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:24 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:19 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
but ... that is money that will not be put back into the roster
Are you saying the better return of young players as a result of using money to sweeten a deal isn’t using money on the roster? I would argue it might be the smartest money.
no doubt - just pointing out the obvious for the simps on here, if we eat 30 million on Gray and Nado the rest of our payroll will be under 90 million imo
In your example they owe those 2 about $75 million. They'd
save $45 million. The portion of that which goes back in is the question.

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 12:49 pm
by Banner29
ForumPolice wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:20 pm His loyalty to Mo never made sense to me because Bill likes money and Mo and his horrible signings cost him untold millions and continues to do so

If you consider hackgate it might actually make perfect sense

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 13:18 pm
by rockondlouie
dugoutrex wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:19 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
but ... that is money that will not be put back into the roster
My thoughts too rex', right into Dewitt's bank account.

Fredo (aka: BDWIII) tried to intimate at the press conference that any money saved dealing high priced players would be re-invested in the roster, I don't believe a word he say;s.

This is Missouri Fredo, Show Me.

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 13:19 pm
by rockondlouie
bccardsfan wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
I will believe this when I see it......
Ditto bcc

I don't trust the Dewitt's to re-invest more than a minimal amount of any salary relief they get if NADO and/or Gray are dealt (re: $2M in 2025 for P. Maton type moves).

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 13:22 pm
by ecleme22
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
I like this

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 15:40 pm
by govman
bccardsfan wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
I will believe this when I see it......
If the DeWitt's are keeping Oli because they don't want to eat his (small) salary, why should we believe they'll give up money to move a player?

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 18:16 pm
by RichieRichSTL
govman wrote: 03 Oct 2025 15:40 pm
bccardsfan wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
I will believe this when I see it......
If the DeWitt's are keeping Oli because they don't want to eat his (small) salary, why should we believe they'll give up money to move a player?
Some truth to that. Then again why waste a costly manager on a team that you know isnt going anywhere,

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 18:31 pm
by bccardsfan
RichieRichSTL wrote: 03 Oct 2025 18:16 pm
govman wrote: 03 Oct 2025 15:40 pm
bccardsfan wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
I will believe this when I see it......
If the DeWitt's are keeping Oli because they don't want to eat his (small) salary, why should we believe they'll give up money to move a player?
Some truth to that. Then again why waste a costly manager on a team that you know isnt going anywhere,
To change the emphasis on good clean fundamental baseball, even in losing seasons, and the change the culture of the team. Guys have a good game and are on the pine the next... all the head scratching moves....

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 18:42 pm
by ilcubuffs
".....for a better return."

That is key.

Money/dry powder is there so just have to possess the will to spend. Identifying "better return" is key as they have lacked the skill to identify such players.

Re: BDWJr willing to eat money in trades.........

Posted: 03 Oct 2025 19:21 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
dugoutrex wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:19 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 03 Oct 2025 12:13 pm .....for a better return.

Katie Woo of The Athletic reports that the ownership will now be more willing to eat money in trades, in order to extract greater returns.

That reporting aligns with comments this week from Chaim Bloom, the new president of baseball operations. “As far as cash being a lever on the trade front, that should never be off the table,” he said, per Woo. “Obviously, you’d prefer not to do that, but you could end up in a situation where adding cash to make a preferred deal work just makes sense.”


Obviously refers to NADO & S. Gray, possibly but less likely WillyC.
but ... that is money that will not be put back into the roster
If the amounts are significant enough where the return goes from a low-A no-name guy with injuries and an attitude problem to a guy banging on the door from AA/AAA, I’d at least feel better about it.