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Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares, Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
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The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.

Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares, Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
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The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.

Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:01 am

Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares, Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
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The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.

Yes, but we have Bloom now and he has magical powers where EVERY draft choice and current minor leaguer will turn into top MLB talent
This is how the Cardinals will once again gain prominence…..within 2-3 yrs….

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:01 am

Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares, Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
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The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.

Yes, but we have Bloom now and he has magical powers where EVERY draft choice and current minor leaguer will turn into top MLB talent
This is how the Cardinals will once again gain prominence…..within 2-3 yrs….

I understand you miss mo but it will be okay

Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:08 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:01 am

Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares, Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.

Yes, but we have Bloom now and he has magical powers where EVERY draft choice and current minor leaguer will turn into top MLB talent
This is how the Cardinals will once again gain prominence…..within 2-3 yrs….

I understand you miss mo but it will be okay

Oz, come on…..you buy into this “we’re going to draft and develop to field a playoff team”? It’s never been that way in modern Cards history
Always a couple outside studs to put it over the top, which means spending money

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:39 am

Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares, Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
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The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.

Gorman was never considered a can’t miss prospect except by Mel and a few other fans there have always been concerns by scouts about his high swing and miss potential

Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:08 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:01 am

Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares, Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.

Yes, but we have Bloom now and he has magical powers where EVERY draft choice and current minor leaguer will turn into top MLB talent
This is how the Cardinals will once again gain prominence…..within 2-3 yrs….

I understand you miss mo but it will be okay

Oz, come on…..you buy into this “we’re going to draft and develop to field a playoff team”? It’s never been that way in modern Cards history
Always a couple outside studs to put it over the top, which means spending money

Whatashame wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 10:45 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:08 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:04 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 09:01 am

Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares, Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
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The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.

Yes, but we have Bloom now and he has magical powers where EVERY draft choice and current minor leaguer will turn into top MLB talent
This is how the Cardinals will once again gain prominence…..within 2-3 yrs….

I understand you miss mo but it will be okay

Oz, come on…..you buy into this “we’re going to draft and develop to field a playoff team”? It’s never been that way in modern Cards history
Always a couple outside studs to put it over the top, which means spending money

It’s like that with every team, not just the Cardinals.
The Dodgers
Betts
Freeman
Glasnow
Ohtani
The Phillies
Harper
Turner
Schwarber
Wheeler
The Yankees
Fried
Rodon
Chisholm
Bednar
The Padres
Machado
Bogaerts
Cease
Arraez
You can go on and on. Almost no one doesn’t supplement their roster with FAs and trades. Almost no one grows all of their own talent.

The Cardinals will NOT be successful without supplementing their roster with FAs and an astute trade or two.

Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 08:21 am Oscar Tavares(spelling), Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman have played 8 seasons and 785 games

They've accumulated a slash line of .228 / .299 / .394 / .693

Their OPS+ is 98, using the league average OPS from 2014-2025.


Was curious of what Gemini AI would say about player today with these kinds of stats:
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The player would rank among the lower-tier to below-average everyday position players in MLB today.

Here's a breakdown of why:

OPS+ of 98:
OPS+ (On-Base Plus Slugging Plus) is the key metric here. A score of 100 is league average after adjusting for park factors.
An OPS+ of 98 means the player is an ever-so-slightly below-average hitter (2% worse than league average).

In a typical season, there are often around 150-200 players who qualify for the batting title or play enough to be considered a regular. A 98 OPS+ would likely place this player somewhere in the bottom half of that group offensively, perhaps ranking roughly in the 60th to 75th percentile of everyday hitters from the bottom up, meaning they are better than maybe 25−40% of regulars, and worse than 60−75%.

Traditional Stats:

The .693 OPS falls just below the typical range for "Average" (.700 to .7666) and into the "Below Average" (.6334 to .6999) classification.

The .228 AVG is quite low, and the .299 OBP is also low, especially in a modern context where OBP is highly valued. The player relies on the .394 SLG to keep their offense near average.

Overall Value:

When you combine a slightly below-average bat (98 OPS+) with bad to below-average fielding and baserunning, the player's total value (often measured by WAR - Wins Above Replacement) would be very low, likely near or even below replacement level (0.0 WAR).

This profile describes a player who provides offensive production just shy of average but is a liability on defense and sometimes on the bases.

Conclusion on Rank:

They would be a starter on a bad team, a platoon player, or a utility/bench player on a good team, especially if they play a position that doesn't demand elite defense (like 1st base or a corner outfield spot).

They would not be considered a good everyday player, and would be one of the least valuable regulars in the league, perhaps ranking in the bottom 15-20% of all full-time position players by overall value.