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That should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
If they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
That's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
Yeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
He does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
That's why other teams won't want him at that costalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:02 pmHe does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
There is definitely a market for him, but no team is taking on all that money.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:03 pmThat's why other teams won't want him at that costalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:02 pmHe does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
14 wins. 15 last night if we had any defense at all.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:02 pmHe does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
He's a solid 2 eat some salary and get a prospect. Serves noscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:03 pmThat's why other teams won't want him at that costalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:02 pmHe does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
So he has some value to a good team.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:17 pm14 wins. 15 last night if we had any defense at all.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:02 pmHe does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
LOL. Judging by wins. 4.28 ERA and always increasing is not good...Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:17 pm14 wins. 15 last night if we had any defense at all.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:02 pmHe does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
Gray has been solid.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:17 pm14 wins. 15 last night if we had any defense at all.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:02 pmHe does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
I don't trust BDW to reinvenst anything. Unless its a 1 yr deal for lance lynn and kyle gibson types. Gray excites me more than that.ecleme22 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:38 pmGray has been solid.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:17 pm14 wins. 15 last night if we had any defense at all.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 12:02 pmHe does nothing for this team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:55 amYeah, not at $35 million...he's not bringing anythingalw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:41 amThat's why he should be traded this offseason.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:36 amIf they play more than one month of the season in 2027 you lose that bet. I think they will not play all season, but I wouldn't bet that kind of money on it.alw80 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 11:22 amThat should be another teams problem.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 10:47 am If we don't pickup his option or renegotiate, he gets $5M at the end fo 2026 to walk away. But if we take the option, and IF the entire 2027 season gets locked out, he gets a pro-rated amount of $30M which would in that case be zero.
There's a pessimistic case for saving money by taking the option.
Gray also wants to be traded.
Trade Gray, then pick up two pitchers with that money saved.