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Yeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Bully4you wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:24 amYeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Mets won't resign him either.
He also won't get the big payday he was expecting.
Should have traded him last offseason for more.
I just think he can't handle pressure.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:45 amBully4you wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:24 amYeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Mets won't resign him either.
He also won't get the big payday he was expecting.
Should have traded him last offseason for more.
Yeah either minor league deal or a 1 year prove it deal.
It was reported here that Helsley wanted a “Josh Hader” type deal.Bully4you wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:24 amYeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Mets won't resign him either.
He also won't get the big payday he was expecting.
Should have traded him last offseason for more.
He isn't going to have to take a minor league deal. C'mon, guy!!Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:45 amBully4you wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:24 amYeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Mets won't resign him either.
He also won't get the big payday he was expecting.
Should have traded him last offseason for more.
Yeah either minor league deal or a 1 year prove it deal.
Do they though? So far Baez has a .676 OPS at A+. So that's a long way to go to even reach the majors, and if he makes it, doesn't he currently project as just another MIer who doesn't have a MOTO bat?Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Hard to know if Helsley could’ve gotten you more in the offseason.Bully4you wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:24 amYeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Mets won't resign him either.
He also won't get the big payday he was expecting.
Should have traded him last offseason for more.
How could he not? He was the best closer in the game last year. He was meh at this year’s trade deadline.ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 12:12 pmHard to know if Helsley could’ve gotten you more in the offseason.Bully4you wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:24 amYeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Mets won't resign him either.
He also won't get the big payday he was expecting.
Should have traded him last offseason for more.
Yea it’s not hard to figure out he would have brought more when he was coming off of an All-Star dominating season had a full season of control and could be offered a QO as opposed to two months of control had already blown more saves than he had the entire previous season couldn’t be offered a QO and hitters were hitting well over .300 against his fastball. Mo was dumb and wasn’t interested in trading him or fedde because he thought this team was a post season contendernjcardfan wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 12:26 pmHow could he not? He was the best closer in the game last year. He was meh at this year’s trade deadline.ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 12:12 pmHard to know if Helsley could’ve gotten you more in the offseason.Bully4you wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:24 amYeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Mets won't resign him either.
He also won't get the big payday he was expecting.
Should have traded him last offseason for more.
Yea he was the one leading the pounding of drums to keep helsley in the offseason and extend himClassicO wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 12:33 pm Melville wrote: ↑30 May 2025 08:41 am
Offer 4 year extension.
17M a year, with 3M deferred annually and payable beginning in 2030.
5th year team option with 2M buyout.
Player opt out after year one and two.
He would sign it.
And it would be a smart move for STL.
Let's remember, while RH was a lot more hittable with STL in 2025, he was still decent, with a 3.00 ERA / 21 SV / 1.1 WAR.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 12:30 pmYea it’s not hard to figure out he would have brought more when he was coming off of an All-Star dominating season had a full season of control and could be offered a QO as opposed to two months of control had already blown more saves than he had the entire previous season couldn’t be offered a QO and hitters were hitting well over .300 against his fastball. Mo was dumb and wasn’t interested in trading him or fedde because he thought this team was a post season contendernjcardfan wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 12:26 pmHow could he not? He was the best closer in the game last year. He was meh at this year’s trade deadline.ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 12:12 pmHard to know if Helsley could’ve gotten you more in the offseason.Bully4you wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 02:24 amYeah, Helsley is not a keeper long-term.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 01:45 am As opposed to the 12 ER in 36 IP with STL.
Finally, a trade where the Cards aren't the immediate loser lol
Baez and Dohm look promising. Based on that promise alone, that already makes this a rare win for them.
Mets won't resign him either.
He also won't get the big payday he was expecting.
Should have traded him last offseason for more.