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May be the next year Cards are relevant. Need to move on from at least 90% of the 40 man roster in the next few years. Going to be some bleak years with payroll in the Tampa, Pittsburgh range.
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kyace wrote: 01 Sep 2025 16:29 pm May be the next year Cards are relevant. Need to move on from at least 90% of the 40 man roster in the next few years. Going to be some bleak years with payroll in the Tampa, Pittsburgh range.
I’m thinking 2028 they have a competitive roster and play for division. For some reason I’m not worried about payroll. Ownership will step up.

Two things impact my prediction negatively:

1. 2027 labor dispute

2. Is Bloom a slow mover? Is he committed to internal rebuild or does he supplement with free agency or big trades. If he moves slow you are correct.
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If Bloom is as good as his rep this team should be competitive by 2027. There's a lot of work to be done but this team has many fungible pieces that he can mix and match with acquisitions however works best.
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They’ll be competitive next year.
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Several notes.

Been 12 years since last WS appearance. The franchise record is 18. So we reach that level.

WS wins are worse. Last time 2011. Record 18 years. We will set new franchise record in four years without a WS win. Will we do it.
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ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Not unless they change managers and get 4 more starters
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smilinjoefission wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:55 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Not unless they change managers and get 4 more starters
They will need Bloom to be active in the offseason.

I say they need three starters
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ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:27 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:55 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Not unless they change managers and get 4 more starters
They will need Bloom to be active in the offseason.

I say they need three starters
I hope they don't sign 3 washed up pitchers.
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Bloom needs to work his plan. See what we have in minors, i know much. Look at trades or free agents.
Nothing may happen in trades or free agent until new agreement

We need at least 3 starters
We have Liberatore and McGreevy long term. Maybe Mathews
The others stay hurt
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OldRed wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:48 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:27 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:55 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Not unless they change managers and get 4 more starters
They will need Bloom to be active in the offseason.

I say they need three starters
I hope they don't sign 3 washed up pitchers.
Well productive pitchers aren’t ’washed Up.’

If 1 year deal pitchers have your panties in a bunch, I would much rather Bloom do that than to sign 3 Mike Leake contracts.
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ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:11 am
OldRed wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:48 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:27 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:55 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Not unless they change managers and get 4 more starters
They will need Bloom to be active in the offseason.

I say they need three starters
I hope they don't sign 3 washed up pitchers.
Well productive pitchers aren’t ’washed Up.’

If 1 year deal pitchers have your panties in a bunch, I would much rather Bloom do that than to sign 3 Mike Leake contracts.



I wish teams would get away from multiple year deals. Many the last few years are bad
Father time is ruff on them
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ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Competitive for what?
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:54 am Several notes.

Been 12 years since last WS appearance. The franchise record is 18. So we reach that level.

WS wins are worse. Last time 2011. Record 18 years. We will set new franchise record in four years without a WS win. Will we do it.
They will do it... both most likely but definitely the latter.
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ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:27 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:55 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Not unless they change managers and get 4 more starters
They will need Bloom to be active in the offseason.

I say they need three starters
Wow!

In 2024 they needed 3 starters to “give the youngsters time to develop”.

2 years later they need 3 starters again.

Anybody out there still need proof of John Mozeliak’s complete and total incompetence?
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Bomber1 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:19 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Competitive for what?
Exactly.
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Bomber1 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:23 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:27 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:55 am
ecleme22 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.
Not unless they change managers and get 4 more starters
They will need Bloom to be active in the offseason.

I say they need three starters
Wow!

In 2024 they needed 3 starters to “give the youngsters time to develop”.

2 years later they need 3 starters again.

Anybody out there still need proof of John Mozeliak’s complete and total incompetence?
I totally agree.

But that speaks towards the prospects and not who he signed for 2024.

Let’s not forget the team still needed a pitcher (Fedde) at the deadline.
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