90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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He's not a "bad" player, but he's no star. And he's not our problem. But we do have big a problem in that we don't have several players hitting better than him in our lineup. And he's really not the solution to that problem either.
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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So 90 players have more HR's, divided by 30 teams, so on many teams one could extrapolate Burly would be about 4th in HR's for some teams, about the same with RBI's, and about 7th on many teams regarding WAR. Also on some of these other teams, he wouldn't be getting as much playing time, and possibly mainly in a platoon role.
He's an OK player overall, but not a star.
Another point could be with a more hitter friendly home ballpark, it's possible Burly's OPS could be over .800 much more frequently, which could be a tipping point into making him a nice complimentary piece for a team.
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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And he has been propped up as a star. He is no star, just better than most on this incompetent roster.
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Superstar of Mediocre
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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Burleson is tied for 5th in the NL for batting average at .291. And he doesn't get many infield hits. Wonder how many MLB hitters Burleson is ahead of in batting average. Probably a lot more than 90.
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Burleson is what he is...a good bat with no glove. He's a 6-hole DH and occasional LF\RF\1B who will give a team good at bats and won't embarrass himself at the plate.

Unfortunately, instead of being a valuable complimentary piece on a good team, he is an over-valued primary piece on a bad team.
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imyourhuckleberry wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:12 pm Burleson is what he is...a good bat with no glove. He's a 6-hole DH and occasional LF\RF\1B who will give a team good at bats and won't embarrass himself at the plate.

Unfortunately, instead of being a valuable complimentary piece on a good team, he is an over-valued primary piece on a bad team.
I disagree on the "no glove". He's fine in LF and RF (with really strong and accurate throwing ability) and is really good at first base. "won't embarrass himself at the plate" is an understatement. Considering he's currently tied for 5th in the NL for batting average.
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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imyourhuckleberry wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:12 pm Burleson is what he is...a good bat with no glove. He's a 6-hole DH and occasional LF\RF\1B who will give a team good at bats and won't embarrass himself at the plate.

Unfortunately, instead of being a valuable complimentary piece on a good team, he is an over-valued primary piece on a bad team.
OK, enough is enough! ComplEmentary, please! :lol:

He might be a complImentary piece in a trade, as in free of charge. 8)
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Vacardfan1964 wrote: 27 Aug 2025 15:52 pm Superstar of Mediocre
"Modiocre"
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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icon wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:20 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:12 pm Burleson is what he is...a good bat with no glove. He's a 6-hole DH and occasional LF\RF\1B who will give a team good at bats and won't embarrass himself at the plate.

Unfortunately, instead of being a valuable complimentary piece on a good team, he is an over-valued primary piece on a bad team.
OK, enough is enough! ComplEmentary, please! :lol:

He might be a complImentary piece in a trade, as in free of charge. 8)
That's undoubtedly the most outlandishly stupid comment I've ever witnessed on Cards Talk. Congratulations on your distinct ignorance.
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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Shady wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:16 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:12 pm Burleson is what he is...a good bat with no glove. He's a 6-hole DH and occasional LF\RF\1B who will give a team good at bats and won't embarrass himself at the plate.

Unfortunately, instead of being a valuable complimentary piece on a good team, he is an over-valued primary piece on a bad team.
I disagree on the "no glove". He's fine in LF and RF ( with really strong and accurate throwing ability) and is really good at first base.
Disagree all you like. Yes, he has a good arm. If he gets to the ball he generally catches it, but he doesn't get to enough balls. His poor range has been covered this season by exceptional CF play by Scott II. And he isn't as good at 1B as you would like to believe. If he doesn't have to move much, he'll catch the ball.

Good hitter. Seems to be a good guy and teammate (at least I've never heard otherwise). Decent, but slow, baserunner.

If you need a 6-hole DH and occasional OF\1B fill-in, he is valuable. If you need a star to build around, he isn't your guy.
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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imyourhuckleberry wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:24 pm
Shady wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:16 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:12 pm Burleson is what he is...a good bat with no glove. He's a 6-hole DH and occasional LF\RF\1B who will give a team good at bats and won't embarrass himself at the plate.

Unfortunately, instead of being a valuable complimentary piece on a good team, he is an over-valued primary piece on a bad team.
I disagree on the "no glove". He's fine in LF and RF ( with really strong and accurate throwing ability) and is really good at first base.
Disagree all you like. Yes, he has a good arm. If he gets to the ball he generally catches it, but he doesn't get to enough balls. His poor range has been covered this season by exceptional CF play by Scott II. And he isn't as good at 1B as you would like to believe. If he doesn't have to move much, he'll catch the ball.

Good hitter. Seems to be a good guy and teammate (at least I've never heard otherwise). Decent, but slow, baserunner.

If you need a 6-hole DH and occasional OF\1B fill-in, he is valuable. If you need a star to build around, he isn't your guy.
I see Burleson's overall ability and value much differently than you do. No biggie. Opinions are like aholes.
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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he shouldnt be our star, that says a lot about ownership and Mo'ron and his plyer development, or lack of it

you have burly as a complimentary player, the stars should be carrying the team, but there are NONE on the roster
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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Shady wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:26 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:24 pm
Shady wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:16 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 27 Aug 2025 17:12 pm Burleson is what he is...a good bat with no glove. He's a 6-hole DH and occasional LF\RF\1B who will give a team good at bats and won't embarrass himself at the plate.

Unfortunately, instead of being a valuable complimentary piece on a good team, he is an over-valued primary piece on a bad team.
I disagree on the "no glove". He's fine in LF and RF ( with really strong and accurate throwing ability) and is really good at first base.
Disagree all you like. Yes, he has a good arm. If he gets to the ball he generally catches it, but he doesn't get to enough balls. His poor range has been covered this season by exceptional CF play by Scott II. And he isn't as good at 1B as you would like to believe. If he doesn't have to move much, he'll catch the ball.

Good hitter. Seems to be a good guy and teammate (at least I've never heard otherwise). Decent, but slow, baserunner.

If you need a 6-hole DH and occasional OF\1B fill-in, he is valuable. If you need a star to build around, he isn't your guy.
I see Burleson's overall ability and value much differently than you do. No biggie. Opinions are like aholes.
Problem is, he is over-valued as a Cardinal. They need him to be what he isn't.

...and you are absolutely entitled to your incorrect opinion.
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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Which Burleson are y’all talking about? First-half or Second-half?
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Re: 90 players have more HRs than Burly, 72 have more RBIs, 200 have higher WAR

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Burleson is a terrible RFer. So bad that even Oli won't play him there anymore. He is so-so in LF and 1B. But will get exposed in the field.

Only Chip, Brad, and Shady will say publicly that Burleson is a good fielder.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... elding-mlb

He has a plus bat against RHP. A good piece of a good team. But not the cornerstone to build around. He is peaking with his bat and very tradeable.

Many have said this on the multiple Burly threads a day/week. I only come to these for the comedy now. But,... yawn.

Football season is starting. Hockey and College basketball soon to follow.
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