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Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 11:47 am
by Talkin' Baseball
Is Brant Brown worth keeping even if Oli goes?

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 11:49 am
by Red Bird Classic
That depends...who is Brant Brown?

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 11:52 am
by Talkin' Baseball
Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:49 am That depends...who is Brant Brown?
Cardinals hitting coach.

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:02 pm
by Red Bird Classic
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:52 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:49 am That depends...who is Brant Brown?
Cardinals hitting coach.
Thanks. I don't keep close watch these days.

I tend to think hitting coaches are over rated. If a team doesn't hit well, it's mostly the players. Otherwise hitting coaches would be making some serious jack.

So either way probably makes little difference.

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:03 pm
by JuanAgosto
If oli goes (big question mark), then his replacement better be someone experienced who has the answer to that and many other moves.

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:04 pm
by 3dender
Is it me or has there been an increase this year, especially the last month or so, of multiple Cards players just watching a fastball down the middle for strike 3? Contreras, Walker, and Nootbaar have been frequent offenders.

Not blaming Brant Brown for that necessarily, but it seems like a notable aberration from previous years.

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:10 pm
by rockondlouie
3dender wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:04 pm Is it me or has there been an increase this year, especially the last month or so, of multiple Cards players just watching a fastball down the middle for strike 3? Contreras, Walker, and Nootbaar have been frequent offenders.

Not blaming Brant Brown for that necessarily, but it seems like a notable aberration from previous years.
Not just you 3d

This team takes way too many meatballs right down the middle of the plate.

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:16 pm
by Red Bird Classic
rockondlouie wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:10 pm
3dender wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:04 pm Is it me or has there been an increase this year, especially the last month or so, of multiple Cards players just watching a fastball down the middle for strike 3? Contreras, Walker, and Nootbaar have been frequent offenders.

Not blaming Brant Brown for that necessarily, but it seems like a notable aberration from previous years.
Not just you 3d

This team takes way too many meatballs right down the middle of the plate.
When some guy is throwing 97 MPH heaters and spinning the slower pitches every-which-way, it's easy to be fooled. :wink:

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:17 pm
by Jatalk
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:47 am Is Brant Brown worth keeping even if Oli goes?
What players have made a significant improvement in hitting over last year? How many and who?

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:23 pm
by 45s
Jatalk wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:17 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:47 am Is Brant Brown worth keeping even if Oli goes?
What players have made a significant improvement in hitting over last year? How many and who?
Those players may be performing at their max level already…

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:29 pm
by renostl
Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:16 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:10 pm
3dender wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:04 pm Is it me or has there been an increase this year, especially the last month or so, of multiple Cards players just watching a fastball down the middle for strike 3? Contreras, Walker, and Nootbaar have been frequent offenders.

Not blaming Brant Brown for that necessarily, but it seems like a notable aberration from previous years.
Not just you 3d

This team takes way too many meatballs right down the middle of the plate.
When some guy is throwing 97 MPH heaters and spinning the slower pitches every-which-way, it's easy to be fooled. :wink:
It is mind boggling to watch though.
It's a league wide deal though.
Their SO are not the issue. 7th or 8th fewest in MLB.
SLG and team speed are, and 2-3 SP's

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:29 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
Jatalk wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:17 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:47 am Is Brant Brown worth keeping even if Oli goes?
What players have made a significant improvement in hitting over last year? How many and who?
Gorman is better than he was a year ago.

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:32 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:29 pm
Jatalk wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:17 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:47 am Is Brant Brown worth keeping even if Oli goes?
What players have made a significant improvement in hitting over last year? How many and who?
Gorman is better than he was a year ago.
and Walkers chase rate has to be better than it was.. baby steps

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:38 pm
by Red Bird Classic
renostl wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:29 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:16 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:10 pm
3dender wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:04 pm Is it me or has there been an increase this year, especially the last month or so, of multiple Cards players just watching a fastball down the middle for strike 3? Contreras, Walker, and Nootbaar have been frequent offenders.

Not blaming Brant Brown for that necessarily, but it seems like a notable aberration from previous years.
Not just you 3d

This team takes way too many meatballs right down the middle of the plate.
When some guy is throwing 97 MPH heaters and spinning the slower pitches every-which-way, it's easy to be fooled. :wink:
It is mind boggling to watch though.
It's a league wide deal though.
Their SO are not the issue. 7th or 8th fewest in MLB.
SLG and team speed are, and 2-3 SP's
Yeah. We need a couple of big bats who can play positions well, a couple of top-notch starters, and better weather. :wink:

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:42 pm
by Jatalk
45s wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:23 pm
Jatalk wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:17 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:47 am Is Brant Brown worth keeping even if Oli goes?
What players have made a significant improvement in hitting over last year? How many and who?
Those players may be performing at their max level already…
Valid point and I’m in no position to evaluate that. Just saying overall have not seen breakout improvement.

Re: Brant Brown

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 12:43 pm
by Jatalk
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:29 pm
Jatalk wrote: 21 Aug 2025 12:17 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Aug 2025 11:47 am Is Brant Brown worth keeping even if Oli goes?
What players have made a significant improvement in hitting over last year? How many and who?
Gorman is better than he was a year ago.
Yes but there are still huge questions about him.