Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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Jimmy's best season in the minors was 1992 as a 22-year-old, where he split time between AA & AAA. In 1992 he slashed;

.307 .384 .489 .872 w/ 14 HR 68 RBI in 440 ABS

Previous to that, he showed limited power, hitting 6 HRs in 715 A/A+ ABs.

In '93 he was promoted to MLB and in 93-94 hit 5 HRs in 350 ABs.

Then in '95 as a 25 y/o he broke out 33HRs in 558 ABs and a slash line of;

.290 .352 .536 .888


Now, I am not saying Nathan Church will turn into Jimmy Edmonds, but you never know. His progression has actually been pretty similar. Between '22 & '24 he had 1,032 ABs between A, A+, AA and hit 12 HRs. He slashed .270 .355 .360 .715. Then he broke out this year as a 24 y/o between AA & AAA , Church broke out with the following slash line;

.329 .386 .524 .911 w/ 13 HRs in 347 ABs.

He just turned 25 y/o and has recently been promoted. I don't expect him to have Jimmy's power #'s, but we may all be surprised if he is a 20+ guy with good speed and defense in CF posting a high .700 to .810 type of OPS.

Who knows? He is definitely a scratch-off ticket, and one can dream. The comps are a little similar, though.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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Correct…..Edmonds didn’t show power until a couple years in ML. I think he spoke of the story of what changed his approach but I don’t remember details.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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Church

Is he another minor leaguer who's JAG?
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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rockondlouie wrote: 19 Aug 2025 11:19 am Church

Is he another minor leaguer who's JAG?
We will find out real soon
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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His minor league numbers this year should be viewed with heavy skepticism.

He's very likely better than Siani with the bat, but people shouldn't be expecting him to be THAT much better than Siani (or Scott) with the bat. Good chance to be at least a solid 4th OF or a passable CF... would be perfect if he were RH to platoon with Scott.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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rockondlouie wrote: 19 Aug 2025 11:19 am Church

Is he another minor leaguer who's JAG?
Too early to tell, although the Cardinals do seem to have a lot of them.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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So far Church is 0-8 time will tell. Not much excitement now! :D
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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rightthinker4 wrote: 19 Aug 2025 13:11 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 19 Aug 2025 11:19 am Church

Is he another minor leaguer who's JAG?
Too early to tell, although the Cardinals do seem to have a lot of them.
:wink:

JJW
Crooks
Bernal
Doyle
"Q"

Only one's I'm thinking could become everyday players/starting pitchers.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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Goldfan wrote: 19 Aug 2025 10:50 am Correct…..Edmonds didn’t show power until a couple years in ML. I think he spoke of the story of what changed his approach but I don’t remember details.
Edmonds has hinted at, but not divulged, the reason his power increased.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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Rooting for Church, his defense as good as Scott’s and he has better arm
Unfortunately i think his offense isn’t much better if at all
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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makesnosense wrote: 19 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
Goldfan wrote: 19 Aug 2025 10:50 am Correct…..Edmonds didn’t show power until a couple years in ML. I think he spoke of the story of what changed his approach but I don’t remember details.
Edmonds has hinted at, but not divulged, the reason his power increased.
Jimmy is coy, but at least he's not lying about it.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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People forget how good Edmonds was here.

No Church in no way shape or form is going to touch him.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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11WSChamps wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:31 pm People forget how good Edmonds was here.

No Church in no way shape or form is going to touch him.
No [shirt]. If anyone put up Jimmy's 2002-2004 numbers today, they'd be the NL MVP.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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Some of y'all take things do literally. It’s a dream comp based on similar power progression in MiLB.

I clearly inferred it was a dream scenario for Church.

Have a little fun gang.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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Coaching staffing needs to start by trimming off the bottom third of his shirt.
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Re: Jimmy Edmonds / Nathan Church

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cardstatman wrote: 19 Aug 2025 18:43 pm Coaching staffing needs to start by trimming off the bottom third of his shirt.
Players today just don't get it. They want to wear all the fancy moisture wicking under armour, nike, etc stuff. Get you a (bleep) half shirt!! You'll be amazed at how much you'll increase your performance while staying cool.
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