Here’s the position player breakdown-overall value

[hmoss859]

POSITION PLAYERS, OVERALL VALUE

Using the FanGraphs version of Wins Above Replacement, here’s a list of where individual Cardinals rank in fWAR among the 252 major-league players that have at least 250 plate appearances this season:

Masyn Winn, 23rd

Brendan Donovan, 72nd

Willson Contreras, 87th

Victor Scott II, 106th

Ivan Herrera, 119th

Alec Burleson, 151st

Lars Nootbaar, 159th

Nolan Arenado, 179th

Pedro Pages, 188th

Nolan Gorman, 200th

Jordan Walker, 242th

Notes: fWAR encompasses offense, defense and baserunning … Winn (3.5 fWAR) and Scott (1. have accrued most of their value on defense … Herrera’s 1.6 fWAR would be higher but his season has twice been interrupted by injuries … Alec Burleson has a low 1.1 fWAR, but that’s because of baserunning and defense …for the STL front office, it has to be at least a little disheartening to see the low-value seasons turned in by Gorman and Walker.

[DickyBennett]

5 players in top half of league

6 in bottom including 2 first round picks

Great roster construction Mo

[CorneliusWolfe]

The average CT poster could’ve drafted and traded and constructed a team that would at least be no worse.

[Jatalk]

POSITION PLAYERS, OVERALL VALUE

Using the FanGraphs version of Wins Above Replacement, here’s a list of where individual Cardinals rank in fWAR among the 252 major-league players that have at least 250 plate appearances this season:

Masyn Winn, 23rd

Brendan Donovan, 72nd

Willson Contreras, 87th

Victor Scott II, 106th

Ivan Herrera, 119th

Alec Burleson, 151st

Lars Nootbaar, 159th

Nolan Arenado, 179th

Pedro Pages, 188th

Nolan Gorman, 200th

Jordan Walker, 242th

Notes: fWAR encompasses offense, defense and baserunning … Winn (3.5 fWAR) and Scott (1. have accrued most of their value on defense … Herrera’s 1.6 fWAR would be higher but his season has twice been interrupted by injuries … Alec Burleson has a low 1.1 fWAR, but that’s because of baserunning and defense …for the STL front office, it has to be at least a little disheartening to see the low-value seasons turned in by Gorman and Walker.

Don’t put a lot of stock in WAR. You point out Gorman and Walker. More should be made of the older, more experienced, highly paid Arenado. 179th is pathetic considering the expectations.

[DickyBennett]

I think those rankings are pretty spot on

Takes into account the total player value

Offense, Defense and Baserunning

It’s a small miracle they are a .500 team

[Ozziesfan41]

The unikkorns 200th?

[imadangman]

They'll need Wetherholt and Walker to join Winn atop the list.

[JuanAgosto]

The average CT poster could’ve drafted and traded and constructed a team that would at least be no worse.

Isn't that the truth. John Mozeliak is a complete dumb (donkey) when it comes to evaluating talent.

[12xu]

The unikkorns 200th?

just the facts. No bias, no agenda.

[JDW]

They'll need Wetherholt and Walker to join Winn atop the list.

Well, if the Cards could have Wetherholt around 10th on that list next year, with Crooks around 125th while the others like Winn just improved a little, let's say 20th, it could make a significant difference IF the SP rotation was also significantly improved.

[imadangman]

They'll need Wetherholt and Walker to join Winn atop the list.

Well, if the Cards could have Wetherholt around 10th on that list next year, with Crooks around 125th while the others like Winn just improved a little, let's say 20th, it could make a significant difference IF the SP rotation was also significantly improved.

And then if Herrera stays right where he is that's fine, if he can play a full season and contribute the value of a impact hitter.

[rockondlouie]

And the bulk of Winn/VSII's fWAR is from their defense/baserunning, both are "meh" at the plate.

[scoutyjones2]

I think those rankings are pretty spot on

Takes into account the total player value

Offense, Defense and Baserunning

It’s a small miracle they are a .500 team

No. Freaking Oli is so inept, this is easily a 600 wining pct team

[swatski]

If the front office is not willing to pay for starting pitching, it will be years until this team is ready for a deep playoff run. The numbers in their projected prospects are just not there in their system now.

[redbirdfan51]

They'll need Wetherholt and Walker to join Winn atop the list.

Next years success could depend heavily on the 3 W's as mentioned and Herrera for position players. Pitching is another story. Cards will need add to the starting pitching. McGreevy and possibly Matthews will start, but not sold on Pallente and Lib, though I think Lib should be fine.

[imadangman]

They'll need Wetherholt and Walker to join Winn atop the list.

Next years success could depend heavily on the 3 W's as mentioned and Herrera for position players. Pitching is another story. Cards will need add to the starting pitching. McGreevy and possibly Matthews will start, but not sold on Pallente and Lib, though I think Lib should be fine.

I like the W theme, kind of like the Killer B's.

Yes, they'll need to go outside the organization for pitching. And no, not another #4 starter.