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Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:39 pm
by billybaseball
I don't know how this got started but the Cardinals are not ineligible for a lottery pick next year. The JJ pick was not a lottery pick and non-revenue sharing teams are only ineligible to win a lottery pick in 3 consecutive drafts. I know the language in the rules was kind of confusing but it has been confirmed by the FO per 101espn today.

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:44 pm
by Shady
billybaseball wrote: 13 Aug 2025 16:39 pm I don't know how this got started but the Cardinals are not ineligible for a lottery pick next year. The JJ pick was not a lottery pick and non-revenue sharing teams are only ineligible to win a lottery pick in 3 consecutive drafts. I know the language in the rules was kind of confusing but it has been confirmed by the FO per 101espn today.
At least another top ten pick in the '26 draft would be very helpful in the rebuild. A top five would be "oh so fine".

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:46 pm
by craviduce
billybaseball wrote: 13 Aug 2025 16:39 pm I don't know how this got started but the Cardinals are not ineligible for a lottery pick next year. The JJ pick was not a lottery pick and non-revenue sharing teams are only ineligible to win a lottery pick in 3 consecutive drafts. I know the language in the rules was kind of confusing but it has been confirmed by the FO per 101espn today.
we're a revenue paying team. Thus we can't in the next draft, pick above 10th. We won the lottery last year for the 2025 draft. Now we're on penalty. We stand in a solid 16th in the draft with a 61-61 record. The Angels are in the same boat as us, they won and pick 2nd in 2025, they are a revenue paying team.

Here's the current standings for picking in 2026 pre lottery....and the 4 teams that can't participate in that lottery.

101ESPN has it wrong.

https://www.tankathon.com/mlb

the best we can likely hope for is 12th in the next draft. We're not catching Colorado and Nats....2 Revenue Receiving teams not eligible for the the lottery

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:46 pm
by Futuregm2

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:47 pm
by RamFan08NY
Great. So we have something to look forward to in 4 years.

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:49 pm
by RamFan08NY
They dont deserve a lottery pick. Should not get rewarded for sucking on purpose.

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:49 pm
by hmoss859
It’s only fitting somebody in front office doesn’t know the rules

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:50 pm
by Futuregm2
hmoss859 wrote: 13 Aug 2025 16:49 pm It’s only fitting somebody in front office doesn’t know the rules
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:51 pm
by craviduce
picking 12-18th in 2026 is better than this year....the College eligible draft is looking really strong and deep.

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:55 pm
by craviduce
craviduce wrote: 13 Aug 2025 16:51 pm picking 12-18th in 2026 is better than this year....the College eligible draft is looking really strong and deep.
way too early mock from Perfect Game...but ...names you should get used to.

Kevin Roberts, Jr is an athletic beast....another Jackson Prep kid (Konnor Griffin's school). He's just as good at basketball as he is baseball...6'5" shooting guard.

Don't sleep on Ace Reese...I doubt he stays where he is in this mock, He's Top 10 barring injury next July

https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/Vi ... icle=23786

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 16:57 pm
by hmoss859
Get an athletic OF with power

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 17:11 pm
by billybaseball
Maybe I'm wrong then. I don't know. Maybe Cardinals revenue is down enough this year that they will be receiving revenue sharing instead of paying in. That would make them eligible for this year I think but not sure what year's revenue they use to judge for the 2026 draft

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 17:14 pm
by billybaseball
Futuregm2 wrote: 13 Aug 2025 16:46 pm I guess grok was wrong.

https://x.com/grok/status/1954353230168932618

https://x.com/JoeDoyleMiLB/status/18668 ... 70?lang=en

https://www.tankathon.com/mlb


Who in the Front office confirmed it to 101ESPN?
Not sure but I was told they said it today on BK and Ferrario. I think I was misinformed because after I was told this I asked Grok and it told me yes they were eligible. Now it's saying no they are not

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 17:17 pm
by 3dender
billybaseball wrote: 13 Aug 2025 17:14 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 13 Aug 2025 16:46 pm I guess grok was wrong.

https://x.com/grok/status/1954353230168932618

https://x.com/JoeDoyleMiLB/status/18668 ... 70?lang=en

https://www.tankathon.com/mlb


Who in the Front office confirmed it to 101ESPN?
Not sure but I was told they said it today on BK and Ferrario. I think I was misinformed because after I was told this I asked Grok and it told me yes they were eligible. Now it's saying no they are not
Stop asking grok stuff prolly, it's just doing an internet search and spitting back info from really dumb websites.

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 17:17 pm
by craviduce
billybaseball wrote: 13 Aug 2025 17:11 pm Maybe I'm wrong then. I don't know. Maybe Cardinals revenue is down enough this year that they will be receiving revenue sharing instead of paying in. That would make them eligible for this year I think but not sure what year's revenue they use to judge for the 2026 draft
they used 2023 revenue, because 2024 revenue wasn't known at the time of the 2024 Winter Meeting, where the 2025 Lottery took place....Dec 6th, IIRC. We won the draft lottery (joining 5 other teams). By the 2023 Revenue, we were a Paying team. You win the lottery once as a paying team, you take a penalty.

You and I went round and round on this in the Draft Thread several months ago.

Re: Cardinals are eligible for a lottery pick

Posted: 13 Aug 2025 17:34 pm
by billybaseball
craviduce wrote: 13 Aug 2025 17:17 pm
billybaseball wrote: 13 Aug 2025 17:11 pm Maybe I'm wrong then. I don't know. Maybe Cardinals revenue is down enough this year that they will be receiving revenue sharing instead of paying in. That would make them eligible for this year I think but not sure what year's revenue they use to judge for the 2026 draft
they used 2023 revenue, because 2024 revenue wasn't known at the time of the 2024 Winter Meeting, where the 2025 Lottery took place....Dec 6th, IIRC. We won the draft lottery (joining 5 other teams). By the 2023 Revenue, we were a Paying team. You win the lottery once as a paying team, you take a penalty.

You and I went round and round on this in the Draft Thread several months ago.
Yeah I conceded but after today I thought maybe I wasn't wrong. Unfortunately looks like I jumped the gun and should have known better.