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Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:03 am**

And he's adequate at SS. He's still only 23. His bat will likely come around. He's fitting in nicely with the reset. At least as a utiilty-type player.

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:10 am**

You did this same thread topic just two weeks ago: viewtopic.php?t=1514943

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:11 am**

Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:03 am And he's adequate at SS. He's still only 23. His bat will likely come around. He's fitting in nicely with the reset. At least as a utiilty-type player.

hmm, where have i seen this thread before

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:12 am**

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:10 am You did this same thread topic just two weeks ago: viewtopic.php?t=1514943

Pay attention. This is more inclusive with the reset in mind. Saggese could be a nice piece to the project.

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:13 am**

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:11 am
Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:03 am And he's adequate at SS. He's still only 23. His bat will likely come around. He's fitting in nicely with the reset. At least as a utiilty-type player.
hmm, where have i seen this thread before

Pay attention. This is more inclusive.

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:15 am**

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:17 am**

Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:13 am
Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:11 am
Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:03 am And he's adequate at SS. He's still only 23. His bat will likely come around. He's fitting in nicely with the reset. At least as a utiilty-type player.
hmm, where have i seen this thread before
Pay attention. This is more inclusive.

more inclusive? you typed 1 line

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:18 am**

Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:12 am
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:10 am You did this same thread topic just two weeks ago: viewtopic.php?t=1514943
Pay attention. This is more inclusive.

Why, because you threw in a passing reference to 2B in the thread title? A position where, incidentally, Saggese has a -1 DRS, -2 OAA, and -2 FRV in a whopping 201.1 innings.

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:20 am**

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:18 am
Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:12 am
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:10 am You did this same thread topic just two weeks ago: viewtopic.php?t=1514943
Pay attention. This is more inclusive.
Why, because you threw in a passing reference to 2B in the thread title? A position where, incidentally, Saggese has a -1 DRS, -2 OAA, and -2 FRV in a whopping 201.1 innings.

So, you are skeptical of Saggese being part of the reset. Is that your point?

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:21 am**

Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:03 am And he's adequate at SS. He's still only 23. His bat will likely come around. He's fitting in nicely with the reset. At least as a utiilty-type player.

I think there are two things impacting his future as a Cardinal. One, the Arenado problem. If he stays he probably ( although he shouldn’t) occupies third. Two, if Gorman can end the season strong with bat and improve defense he is probably an option at third before Saggese.

With JJ coming up. Arenado blocking his path and if there is an improved Gorman I don’t see him sticking. Probably traded.

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:23 am**

Jatalk wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:21 am
Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:03 am And he's adequate at SS. He's still only 23. His bat will likely come around. He's fitting in nicely with the reset. At least as a utiilty-type player.
I think there are two things impacting his future as a Cardinal. One, the Arenado problem. If he stays he probably ( although he shouldn’t) occupies third. Two, if Gorman can end the season strong with bat and improve defense he is probably an option at third before Saggese.

With JJ coming up. Arenado blocking his path and if there is an improved Gorman I don’t see him sticking. Probably traded.

I could see a Gorman/Sagese platoon at 3B. Wish Saggese could also help out in the outfield.

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:42 am**

He looks over matched at the plate

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 10:59 am**

Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:12 am
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:10 am You did this same thread topic just two weeks ago: viewtopic.php?t=1514943
Pay attention. This is more inclusive with the reset in mind. Saggese could be a nice piece to the project.

5 edits and you still thought it was a good idea to talk about “with the reset in mind” when the “reset” has been known about since the offseason, not just the trade deadline.

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 11:01 am**

Too many Saggese's on this team (too many players who sort of play several positions but none that well) Saggese is an add in on a bigger trade

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 11:13 am**

Barrys_head wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:42 am He looks over matched at the plate

Saggese has hit very well, overall, in the minors. Much like Burleson did. Let's hope Saggese progresses as an MLB hitter like Burleson has. Could happen.

Posted: **11 Aug 2025 11:18 am**

"Solid"?

He's never going to be the starting 2nd baseman, never going to be the starting 3rd baseman either.

His "upside" is back of the bench SUP.

Right now he's JAG w/a career: .230 .273 .327 .600 slash.

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