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W. Contreras
Posted: 04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
by Goldfan
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 04 Aug 2025 22:01 pm
by Braund241
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
A slightly below average player on a really bad team. Meh
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 04 Aug 2025 22:05 pm
by cardstatman
Seems to be headed for 600+ plate appearances.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 04 Aug 2025 22:12 pm
by Goldfan
Braund241 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:01 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
A slightly below average player on a really bad team. Meh
Those numbers are fine at Catcher…..some might even get all excited about it….but at 1b now it’s very average
Why anyone would think a 33yr with YEARS of stats in the bag would become an impact bat is puzzling
It’s puzzling why CTers would fall for it and more discerning why a MLB FO would fall for it
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 04 Aug 2025 22:31 pm
by TopofthePerch
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
Yes they all suck. Wash,rince,repeat. We get it. You're a ghost when they play well. You're just waiting for everyone to fail or slump to be like I told you so.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 04 Aug 2025 23:45 pm
by Carp4Cy
Braund241 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:01 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
A slightly below average player on a really bad team. Meh
OPS+ of 120. You don't understand what below average means.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 00:05 am
by cardstatman
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 23:45 pmYou don't understand what below average means.
All of their players are below average. All of them! They have nothing!
That is why they have a whopping 57 losses and only 57 wins.
Gloom! Despair! Agony!
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 05:23 am
by 2ninr
Contreras is a good player to have if there are a couple of guys that are better offensively.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 07:01 am
by RunSup
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 23:45 pm
Braund241 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:01 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
A slightly below average player on a really bad team. Meh
OPS+ of 120. You don't understand what below average means.
He's a good piece for a good team. Transitioned to 1B well. Passionate for the game. Wants to win. Needs hitters around him.
He's also a tradeable asset if we waives his NTC.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 07:05 am
by Absolut
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
Your first stat suggesting he’s a 25-30 hr guy? Hes never done that. Your last statement suggesting he’s below peak rbi is misleading, he’s on a 90 rbi pace.
He’s on pace for career high in runs, hits, doubles and rbi.
At Age 33.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 07:09 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Absolut wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 07:05 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
Your first stat suggesting he’s a 25-30 hr guy? Hes never done that. Your last statement suggesting he’s below peak rbi is misleading, he’s on a 90 rbi pace.
He’s on pace for career high in runs, hits, doubles and rbi.
At Age 33.
After a horrible start. I bet since May, his stats look nice.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 08:25 am
by Goldfan
Absolut wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 07:05 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
Your first stat suggesting he’s a 25-30 hr guy? Hes never done that. Your last statement suggesting he’s below peak rbi is misleading, he’s on a 90 rbi pace.
He’s on pace for career high in runs, hits, doubles and rbi.
At Age 33.
The 3 should’ve been a 2….
He’s pace has cooled….we shall see
BA and OPS below par…..
If Goldy were hitting, and he did, like this at 1b all would be saying its time to go…..and he did.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 09:16 am
by JohnnyMO
Like a lot of the offense, Conteras is a solid player that belongs in a major league lineup.
The problem isn’t that he is a bad hitter. Neither are guys like Burly, Noot, Winn, or Donny. The problem is they are role players that should be hitting 5th, 6th, or 7th and the Cardinals are counting on them to hit 2/3/4.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 09:59 am
by BrockFloodMaris
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:12 pm
Braund241 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:01 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
A slightly below average player on a really bad team. Meh
Those numbers are fine at Catcher…..some might even get all excited about it….but at 1b now it’s very average
Why anyone would think a 33yr with YEARS of stats in the bag would become an impact bat is puzzling
It’s puzzling why CTers would fall for it and more discerning why a MLB FO would fall for it
WC’s bat, like many on this team, are adequate when not relied upon to drive the offense, but as complimentary pieces to a couple big thumpers, like Goldy and Nado used to be.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 10:10 am
by Wattage
BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 09:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:12 pm
Braund241 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:01 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
A slightly below average player on a really bad team. Meh
Those numbers are fine at Catcher…..some might even get all excited about it….but at 1b now it’s very average
Why anyone would think a 33yr with YEARS of stats in the bag would become an impact bat is puzzling
It’s puzzling why CTers would fall for it and more discerning why a MLB FO would fall for it
WC’s bat, like many on this team, are adequate when not relied upon to drive the offense, but as complimentary pieces to a couple big thumpers, like Goldy and Nado used to be.
Contreras bat is quite good. The problem isnt contreras, its that the lineup also usually features
1. Nootbaar .704 ops and much lower after good first month
2. Arenado .660 ops
3. Scott .625 ops(also dropping after good start)
4. Pages .564 ops
And often if one of them isnt in the lineup, we imstead have(or have as 5th or 6th addition in lineup)
5. Gorman .709 ops
6. Walker .604 ops
7. Saggese .597 ops.
A lineup cant have 4-5 dead bats and expect to be successful.
I will give scott another year but no matter how good his defense is he needs to hit better.
Nootbaar should no longer be penculed in as starter for future.
Pages shouldnt be an mlb catcher.
Itd be nice to get a thumper bat but first we just need to get rid of black holes.
Contreras donovan herrera and burleson us a solid 4. Win is okay enough as starting 9 with his defense and okay offense. But after that the lineup gets dead.
Re: W. Contreras
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 10:16 am
by ClassicO
Wattage wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 10:10 am
BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 09:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:12 pm
Braund241 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 22:01 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 21:55 pm
Being healthy this season at 1b should noticeably elevate his numbers
Lets review
Career 30-25 HR
2025 15HR
Career .258 BA
2025 .255
Career .818 OPS
2025 .786
Peak 74 RBis
2025 64
So Willson might have a few more RBI’s than his career avg……but other than that looks like same ole WC
A slightly below average player on a really bad team. Meh
Those numbers are fine at Catcher…..some might even get all excited about it….but at 1b now it’s very average
Why anyone would think a 33yr with YEARS of stats in the bag would become an impact bat is puzzling
It’s puzzling why CTers would fall for it and more discerning why a MLB FO would fall for it
WC’s bat, like many on this team, are adequate when not relied upon to drive the offense, but as complimentary pieces to a couple big thumpers, like Goldy and Nado used to be.
Contreras bat is quite good. The problem isnt contreras, its that the lineup also usually features
1. Nootbaar .704 ops and much lower after good first month
2. Arenado .660 ops
3. Scott .625 ops(also dropping after good start)
4. Pages .564 ops
And often if one of them isnt in the lineup, we imstead have(or have as 5th or 6th addition in lineup)
5. Gorman .709 ops
6. Walker .604 ops
7. Saggese .597 ops.
A lineup cant have 4-5 dead bats and expect to be successful.
I will give scott another year but no matter how good his defense is he needs to hit better.
Nootbaar should no longer be penculed in as starter for future.
Pages shouldnt be an mlb catcher.
Itd be nice to get a thumper bat but first we just need to get rid of black holes.
Contreras donovan herrera and burleson us a solid 4. Win is okay enough as starting 9 with his defense and okay offense. But after that the lineup gets dead.
Good analysis by Wattage.
The other issue is that the "solid four" are not great defensively. Contreras may be the best of the bunch. The other three are being targeted for the OF, but Burly and Herrera are arguably DHs being pushed into playing OF. Donovan is just an adequate OF.