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Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 14:58 pm
by Futuregm2
Nice. That’s a good write up on Baez. He makes a lot of sense really for the organization. Possibility for 3B down the line.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 15:01 pm
by ramfandan
Another ranking on Baez according the Bernie M. on his podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U9lEpROnTE
he cites Baseball America ranking Baez as 10th of 94 prospects traded yesterday .
Either one is very good and why some analysts gave the Cardinals high reviews on the Helsley deal.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 15:08 pm
by ClassicO
Thanks. Good stuff.
Baseball America did this as well.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... -deadline/
They have Baez #10 vs #4 (they had him as the Mets #6)
Dohm - #39 (close to #38)
Blaze - #42 (quite different than #17!)
Frank Elissalt - #62
Oddly, they don't include Hales or Molina even in lower categories, "worth a flier" and "role players."
This was interesting on Baez (after glowing remarks about bat speed, etc.) - "his hands and arm grade as plus, but he’s slow-footed and not rangy, making third base or second base good landing spots" and "Baez is the Mets’ top helium prospect. They rave about his attitude and work ethic."
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 15:12 pm
by bakker
ClassicO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 15:08 pm
Thanks. Good stuff.
Baseball America did this as well.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... -deadline/
They have Baez #10 vs #4 (they had him as the Mets #6)
Dohm - #39 (close to #38)
Blaze - #42 (quite different than #17!)
Frank Elissalt - #62
Oddly, they don't include Hales or Molina even in lower categories, "worth a flier" and "role players."
This was interesting on Baez (after glowing remarks about bat speed, etc.) - "his hands and arm grade as plus, but he’s slow-footed and not rangy, making third base or second base good landing spots" and "Baez is the Mets’ top helium prospect. They rave about his attitude and work ethic."
That's interesting and hopefully true but I thought one of the criticisms I heard yesterday was he showed up this spring out of shape. May have misunderstood that. Sounds like a decent prospect.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 15:12 pm
by Futuregm2
ClassicO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 15:08 pm
Thanks. Good stuff.
Baseball America did this as well.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... -deadline/
They have Baez #10 vs #4 (they had him as the Mets #6)
Dohm - #39 (close to #38)
Blaze - #42 (quite different than #17!)
Frank Elissalt - #62
Oddly, they don't include Hales or Molina even in lower categories, "worth a flier" and "role players."
This was interesting on Baez (after glowing remarks about bat speed, etc.) - "his hands and arm grade as plus, but he’s slow-footed and not rangy, making third base or second base good landing spots" and "Baez is the Mets’ top helium prospect.
They rave about his attitude and work ethic."
Really? Because Keith Law all but said he had a P[ositively] O[bnoxious] S[impleton] attitude. Said he doesn’t play hard on either side of the ball and showed up out of shape this season.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 15:15 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 15:12 pmReally? Because Keith Law all but said he had a P[ositively] O[bnoxious] S[impleton] attitude. Said he doesn’t play hard on either side of the ball and showed up out of shape this season.
Yea, I read a few things today about Baez and a few of them mentioned his work ethic, but I swore I read something opposite of that yesterday. Must have been the Keith Law thing. Who knows?
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:06 pm
by Shady
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
Baez, at 20, rated higher than Mick Abel. Wow !
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:11 pm
by Futuregm2
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:06 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
Baez, at 20, rated higher than Mick Abel. Wow !
The highest rated prospect on the list is 18. Age has little to do with rankings.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:13 pm
by 3dender
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:06 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
Baez, at 20, rated higher than Mick Abel. Wow !
The highest rated prospect on the list is 18. Age has little to do with rankings.
Shhh he's just blowing up his brand new doll.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:13 pm
by Shady
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:06 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
Baez, at 20, rated higher than Mick Abel. Wow !
The highest rated prospect on the list is 18. Age has little to do with rankings.
buLLchit. It's very impressive to be rated that highly as a 20 year-old.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:15 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 15:12 pm
ClassicO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 15:08 pm
Thanks. Good stuff.
Baseball America did this as well.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... -deadline/
They have Baez #10 vs #4 (they had him as the Mets #6)
Dohm - #39 (close to #38)
Blaze - #42 (quite different than #17!)
Frank Elissalt - #62
Oddly, they don't include Hales or Molina even in lower categories, "worth a flier" and "role players."
This was interesting on Baez (after glowing remarks about bat speed, etc.) - "his hands and arm grade as plus, but he’s slow-footed and not rangy, making third base or second base good landing spots" and "Baez is the Mets’ top helium prospect.
They rave about his attitude and work ethic."
Really? Because Keith Law all but said he had a P[ositively] O[bnoxious] S[impleton] attitude. Said he doesn’t play hard on either side of the ball and showed up out of shape this season.
I thought the same thing somebody has some bad intel
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:16 pm
by Shady
3dender wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:13 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:06 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
Baez, at 20, rated higher than Mick Abel. Wow !
The highest rated prospect on the list is 18. Age has little to do with rankings.
Shhh he's just blowing up his brand new doll.
You dingdongs are getting more useless by the day. And more and more respectful posters are expressing their displeasure in those worthless tactics.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:45 pm
by smilinjoefission
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
From that article
"He is pretty pull-oriented with a flatter swing plane -- so he doesn't always lift the ball as much as he should..."
Get ready for the Cards to ruin his swing like they did Walker.
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 16:49 pm
by 82birds
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
thx for the link RD.
wow, Twins have 3 of the top 10 on that list.
might make Twins fans feel a little better about yesterday's fiasco
Re: Baez Ranked #4 of 97 Prospects Who Were Traded
Posted: 01 Aug 2025 17:27 pm
by ClassicO
82birds wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:49 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:49 pm
Per this article from Kiley McDaniel from ESPN. He likes his "rare combination of plus raw power and plus bat control" and seems to think that he has the arm strength to stick at 3B, but thinks probably 2B is his most likely position.
He also put Blaze Jordan at #17 on the list. Interestingly, he says that he doesn't lift the ball as much as he should, which kinda sounds like our own Jordan Walker, if I'm understanding him.
He ranks Nate Dohm #38, Skylar Hales #54, Mason Molina #71, and Frank Elissalt #81.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/457 ... nged-teams
thx for the link RD.
wow, Twins have 3 of the top 10 on that list.
might make Twins fans feel a little better about yesterday's fiasco
Let's put those Twins top picks in context: It's 30% -- but they traded almost 40% of their 26-man roster (10), including the top reliever and two very good set-up men, plus Correa, Castro, and Bader.