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lidstrom5 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:21 am Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

bccardsfan wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:26 am

lidstrom5 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:21 am Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

The Cardinal Way is just about how to play fundamental baseball. They are still teaching fundamentals in the minors the last time I checked.....

bccardsfan wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:26 am

lidstrom5 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:21 am Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

The Cardinal Way is just about how to play fundamental baseball. They are still teaching fundamentals in the minors the last time I checked.....

OldRed wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:29 am

bccardsfan wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:26 am

lidstrom5 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:21 am Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

The Cardinal Way is just about how to play fundamental baseball. They are still teaching fundamentals in the minors the last time I checked.....

Kissell taught more than fundamentals. He also taught mind set and wanting to win and how to win.

lidstrom5 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:21 am Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 09:04 am Kissell's version of the "Cardinals Way" ended when Mozeliak fired Shildt. The full transition to analytics was made then.

Cranny wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 10:03 amas

lidstrom5 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:21 am Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

Actually, no. If you listen to interviews with Bloom and Cerfolio, they refer to it and respect it.

Cranny wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 10:03 am

lidstrom5 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:21 am Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

Actually, no. If you listen to interviews with Bloom and Cerfolio, they refer to it and respect it.

Cranny wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 10:03 am

lidstrom5 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 08:21 am Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

Actually, no. If you listen to interviews with Bloom and Cerfolio, they refer to it and respect it.

RichieRichSTL wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 10:34 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 09:04 am Kissell's version of the "Cardinals Way" ended when Mozeliak fired Shildt. The full transition to analytics was made then.

Agreed. Shildt probably us not the best strategist and i am not sure about BP usage, but his teams do not tend to defeat themselves on fundamentals and he doesnt have the oli mindset on losing. But Shildt was a long termer the Cardinal''s system, so Im not surprised he has that old school outlook.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 11:00 am

RichieRichSTL wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 10:34 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 09:04 am Kissell's version of the "Cardinals Way" ended when Mozeliak fired Shildt. The full transition to analytics was made then.

Agreed. Shildt probably us not the best strategist and i am not sure about BP usage, but his teams do not tend to defeat themselves on fundamentals and he doesnt have the oli mindset on losing. But Shildt was a long termer the Cardinal''s system, so Im not surprised he has that old school outlook.

I agree about Shildt's handling of the bullpen. And I wasn't a huge fan. But he did clean up the fundamentals as cards manager. He was gifted Kissell's binder after George's death. Im sure he took it to SD when he left.

I wonder if Bloom will receive a copy of "Mo's Way"?

WLTFE wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 11:06 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 11:00 am

RichieRichSTL wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 10:34 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 09:04 am Kissell's version of the "Cardinals Way" ended when Mozeliak fired Shildt. The full transition to analytics was made then.

Agreed. Shildt probably us not the best strategist and i am not sure about BP usage, but his teams do not tend to defeat themselves on fundamentals and he doesnt have the oli mindset on losing. But Shildt was a long termer the Cardinal''s system, so Im not surprised he has that old school outlook.

I agree about Shildt's handling of the bullpen. And I wasn't a huge fan. But he did clean up the fundamentals as cards manager. He was gifted Kissell's binder after George's death. Im sure he took it to SD when he left.

I wonder if Bloom will receive a copy of "Mo's Way"?

Mo-ran's Way.. 'how to be a arrogant snob and be a millionaire!'...and leave the team in much worse shape!