House cleaning needed for coaching staff
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House cleaning needed for coaching staff
Bloom needs to fire Oli and his entire coaching staff. When you're starting with a "clean slate," as Mozeliak says he wants Bloom to be able to do, you need fresh faces throughout management. And that includes on the field. And he needs to hire a manager with experience. No more tryouts at the MLB level.
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Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
Well said icon - would you keep Jon Jay ?
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This would require an owner who cares. We’ll soon find out. Been a long time, would require a serious change of mindset.icon wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 22:46 pm Bloom needs to fire Oli and his entire coaching staff. When you're starting "from scratch," as Mozeliak says he wants Bloom to be able to do, you need fresh faces throughout management. And that includes on the field. And he needs to hire a manager with experience. No more tryouts at the MLB level.
Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
The new manager would have a big say on that.
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Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
Often, a new gm/pobo brings in a new staff. Im not sure it happens here.
Reasons oli & staff may stay:
1. Bloom may want some continuity.
2. Bloom might think the staff has done well all considered.
3. DeWitt may demand it (at least through next year).
Reasons oli & staff may go:
1. Bloom wants to tear it all down.
2. Bloom feels more comfortable bringing in his own guy.
3. Bloom thinks he can find a better manager.
Reasons oli & staff may stay:
1. Bloom may want some continuity.
2. Bloom might think the staff has done well all considered.
3. DeWitt may demand it (at least through next year).
Reasons oli & staff may go:
1. Bloom wants to tear it all down.
2. Bloom feels more comfortable bringing in his own guy.
3. Bloom thinks he can find a better manager.
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What would you do if you were being judgedJuanAgosto wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 23:47 pm Often, a new gm/pobo brings in a new staff. Im not sure it happens here.
Reasons oli & staff may stay:
1. Bloom may want some continuity.
2. Bloom might think the staff has done well all considered.
3. DeWitt may demand it (at least through next year).
Reasons oli & staff may go:
1. Bloom wants to tear it all down.
2. Bloom feels more comfortable bringing in his own guy.
3. Bloom thinks he can find a better manager.
by what happens on the field?
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Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
I would start rebuilding the roster on day 1 of being pobo.renostl wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 00:13 amWhat would you do if you were being judgedJuanAgosto wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 23:47 pm Often, a new gm/pobo brings in a new staff. Im not sure it happens here.
Reasons oli & staff may stay:
1. Bloom may want some continuity.
2. Bloom might think the staff has done well all considered.
3. DeWitt may demand it (at least through next year).
Reasons oli & staff may go:
1. Bloom wants to tear it all down.
2. Bloom feels more comfortable bringing in his own guy.
3. Bloom thinks he can find a better manager.
by what happens on the field?
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and with the manager?JuanAgosto wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 00:41 amI would start rebuilding the roster on day 1 of being pobo.renostl wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 00:13 amWhat would you do if you were being judgedJuanAgosto wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 23:47 pm Often, a new gm/pobo brings in a new staff. Im not sure it happens here.
Reasons oli & staff may stay:
1. Bloom may want some continuity.
2. Bloom might think the staff has done well all considered.
3. DeWitt may demand it (at least through next year).
Reasons oli & staff may go:
1. Bloom wants to tear it all down.
2. Bloom feels more comfortable bringing in his own guy.
3. Bloom thinks he can find a better manager.
by what happens on the field?
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Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
If the plan is roster overhaul, you bring in a new staff.renostl wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 00:50 amand with the manager?JuanAgosto wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 00:41 amI would start rebuilding the roster on day 1 of being pobo.renostl wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 00:13 amWhat would you do if you were being judgedJuanAgosto wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 23:47 pm Often, a new gm/pobo brings in a new staff. Im not sure it happens here.
Reasons oli & staff may stay:
1. Bloom may want some continuity.
2. Bloom might think the staff has done well all considered.
3. DeWitt may demand it (at least through next year).
Reasons oli & staff may go:
1. Bloom wants to tear it all down.
2. Bloom feels more comfortable bringing in his own guy.
3. Bloom thinks he can find a better manager.
by what happens on the field?
If you only make a couple moves (starting pitcher, RH bat, trade a couple guys), then give this group another year.
Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
Not sure the Cards will have a whole lot of interest in the job outside of those connected to the organization. Another first timer I fear is on the way.
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Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
They have to fire Oli and the bulk of his coaching staff (J. Jay and D. Descalso are the only one's I bring back).
Keeping Oli and his gang sends a horrible message to the fan base, more of the same poor managing.
While bringing in a new Manager gives us hope change is truly here.
Keeping Oli and his gang sends a horrible message to the fan base, more of the same poor managing.
While bringing in a new Manager gives us hope change is truly here.
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Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
Oli managed in the minors (bleep)icon wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 22:46 pm Bloom needs to fire Oli and his entire coaching staff. When you're starting with a "clean slate," as Mozeliak says he wants Bloom to be able to do, you need fresh faces throughout management. And that includes on the field. And he needs to hire a manager with experience. No more tryouts at the MLB level.
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If Bloom wants continuity with failure, we are in for a long haul before success returns.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 23:47 pm Often, a new gm/pobo brings in a new staff. Im not sure it happens here.
Reasons oli & staff may stay:
1. Bloom may want some continuity.
2. Bloom might think the staff has done well all considered.
3. DeWitt may demand it (at least through next year).
Reasons oli & staff may go:
1. Bloom wants to tear it all down.
2. Bloom feels more comfortable bringing in his own guy.
3. Bloom thinks he can find a better manager.
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while I don't completely blame the staff for the state of the club.....they are certainly complicit
they should be relived as part of a clean start with Rock's boner
as part of that fresh start is a staff from outside the organization........I will concede convincing veteran, experienced leaders to go to stl will be a challenge
they should be relived as part of a clean start with Rock's boner
as part of that fresh start is a staff from outside the organization........I will concede convincing veteran, experienced leaders to go to stl will be a challenge
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scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:00 amOli managed in the minors (bleep)icon wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 22:46 pm Bloom needs to fire Oli and his entire coaching staff. When you're starting with a "clean slate," as Mozeliak says he wants Bloom to be able to do, you need fresh faces throughout management. And that includes on the field. And he needs to hire a manager with experience. No more tryouts at the MLB level.
Oli had no MLB managerial experience, (bleep).
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Re: House cleaning needed for coaching staff
You said experience (bleep)icon wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:12 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:00 amOli managed in the minors (bleep)icon wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 22:46 pm Bloom needs to fire Oli and his entire coaching staff. When you're starting with a "clean slate," as Mozeliak says he wants Bloom to be able to do, you need fresh faces throughout management. And that includes on the field. And he needs to hire a manager with experience. No more tryouts at the MLB level.
Oli had no MLB managerial experience, (bleep).