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Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm
by Youboughtit
Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 17:51 pm
by Cranny
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces
Arenado is probably gone.

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 17:55 pm
by Youboughtit
Cranny wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:51 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces
Arenado is probably gone.
Then Segesse fills that hole. I am still pessimistic he accepts a trade anywhere but the Dodgers and now it will require the Cardinals to pay half his salary and no player in return or an outright DFA to get rid of him. He will have to be Fedde bad for that to happen

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 17:57 pm
by scoutyjones2
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces
What good young trade pieces?

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:00 pm
by Youboughtit
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:57 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces
What good young trade pieces?
Gorman Walker Nootbar Burleson all would have market to a small market team because of cost control and upside. Go get a AA or AAA SP prospect in return to fill the void. Hitter for pitcher. A baseball trade

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:05 pm
by scoutyjones2
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:00 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:57 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces
What good young trade pieces?
Gorman Walker Nootbar Burleson all would have market to a small market team because of cost control and upside. Go get a AA or AAA SP prospect in return to fill the void
Snoot turns 28 and Bumbles 27, this year. Both arb eligible.
Is that young?

You think a bunch of league average hitters and one 25% worse, are getting you starting pitching worth a (bleep)?

I'm hanging onto Bumbles, for now....that other garbage can go

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:07 pm
by Youboughtit
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:05 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:00 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:57 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces
What good young trade pieces?
Gorman Walker Nootbar Burleson all would have market to a small market team because of cost control and upside. Go get a AA or AAA SP prospect in return to fill the void
Snoot turns 28 and Bumbles 27, this year. Both arb eligible.
Is that young?

You think a bunch of league average hitters and one 25% worse, are getting you starting pitching worth a (drat)?

I'm hanging onto Bumbles, for now....that other garbage can go
Then add one to the Helsley trade to get one or package 2 together. Have you seen some of the rostered hitters on the small market teams? They are cheap.

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
by scoutyjones2
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:07 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:05 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:00 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:57 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces
What good young trade pieces?
Gorman Walker Nootbar Burleson all would have market to a small market team because of cost control and upside. Go get a AA or AAA SP prospect in return to fill the void
Snoot turns 28 and Bumbles 27, this year. Both arb eligible.
Is that young?

You think a bunch of league average hitters and one 25% worse, are getting you starting pitching worth a (drat)?

I'm hanging onto Bumbles, for now....that other garbage can go
Then add one to the Helsley trade to get one or package 2 together. Have you seen some of the rostered hitters on the small market teams? They are cheap.
Are they often injured like KKorn and Snoot?

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:23 pm
by Cusecards
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:42 pm Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces
Good points

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:38 pm
by 82birds
manager not named Oli

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:44 pm
by ilcubuffs
40 players with MLB quality skills. Marmot no where near Cardinal organization.

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:46 pm
by alw80
They'll be cutting payroll this offseaosn.

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 18:54 pm
by Youboughtit
alw80 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:46 pm They'll be cutting payroll this offseaosn.
They can do that and add younger higher upside by selling now. Tigers and 6 other teams want Helsley and recent report is the also want Arenado. How about Helsley and Aranado for Jobe?

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 19:05 pm
by scoutyjones2
ilcubuffs wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:44 pm 40 players with MLB quality skills. Marmot no where near Cardinal organization.
Why? Has he had that before? Maybe 2022...

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 19:14 pm
by Youboughtit
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 19:05 pm
ilcubuffs wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:44 pm 40 players with MLB quality skills. Marmot no where near Cardinal organization.
Why? Has he had that before? Maybe 2022...
40 B-C grade players. They are missing the A+ players to build around like a 35/100 hitter or a 18 game winner. When they get those players the rest will fall into place. How do they get them? SPEND THE $100m they cut from payroll after this season.

Re: Team needs for 2026

Posted: 29 Jul 2025 19:16 pm
by scoutyjones2
Youboughtit wrote: 29 Jul 2025 19:14 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 19:05 pm
ilcubuffs wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:44 pm 40 players with MLB quality skills. Marmot no where near Cardinal organization.
Why? Has he had that before? Maybe 2022...
40 B-C grade players. They are missing the A+ players to build around like a 35/100 hitter or a 18 game winner. When they get those players the rest will fall into place. How do they get them? SPEND THE $100m they cut from payroll after this season.
So Oli isn't to blame for having an above 500 club?