Team needs for 2026

[Youboughtit]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

[Cranny]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

Arenado is probably gone.

[Youboughtit]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

Arenado is probably gone.

Then Segesse fills that hole. I am still pessimistic he accepts a trade anywhere but the Dodgers and now it will require the Cardinals to pay half his salary and no player in return or an outright DFA to get rid of him. He will have to be Fedde bad for that to happen

[scoutyjones2]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

What good young trade pieces?

[Youboughtit]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

What good young trade pieces?

Gorman Walker Nootbar Burleson all would have market to a small market team because of cost control and upside. Go get a AA or AAA SP prospect in return to fill the void. Hitter for pitcher. A baseball trade

[scoutyjones2]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

What good young trade pieces?

Gorman Walker Nootbar Burleson all would have market to a small market team because of cost control and upside. Go get a AA or AAA SP prospect in return to fill the void

Snoot turns 28 and Bumbles 27, this year. Both arb eligible.
Is that young?

You think a bunch of league average hitters and one 25% worse, are getting you starting pitching worth a (bleep)?

I'm hanging onto Bumbles, for now....that other garbage can go

[Youboughtit]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

What good young trade pieces?

Gorman Walker Nootbar Burleson all would have market to a small market team because of cost control and upside. Go get a AA or AAA SP prospect in return to fill the void

Snoot turns 28 and Bumbles 27, this year. Both arb eligible.
Is that young?

You think a bunch of league average hitters and one 25% worse, are getting you starting pitching worth a (drat)?

I'm hanging onto Bumbles, for now....that other garbage can go

Then add one to the Helsley trade to get one or package 2 together. Have you seen some of the rostered hitters on the small market teams? They are cheap.

[scoutyjones2]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

What good young trade pieces?

Gorman Walker Nootbar Burleson all would have market to a small market team because of cost control and upside. Go get a AA or AAA SP prospect in return to fill the void

Snoot turns 28 and Bumbles 27, this year. Both arb eligible.
Is that young?

You think a bunch of league average hitters and one 25% worse, are getting you starting pitching worth a (drat)?

I'm hanging onto Bumbles, for now....that other garbage can go

Then add one to the Helsley trade to get one or package 2 together. Have you seen some of the rostered hitters on the small market teams? They are cheap.

Are they often injured like KKorn and Snoot?

[Cusecards]

Looking at possible trade returns and the roster for next year if Arenado Contreras and Gray use NTC

13 position players
Contreras
Burleson
Wetherholt
Donovan
Winn
Arenado
Nootbar
Scott
Walker
Gorman
Pages
Pozo
Hererra

Segesse in AAA

Rotation

Gray
McGreevy
Pallante
Libertore
?

BP not included

My point is there are too many bats and the need for SP is huge. Any trade using Helsley or a couple of players from above needs to return a SP preferably a young power arm in AAA. The match is clear. The Dodgers have 2 or 3 of them.


Follow up question. This team needs a regular lineup. Who is on the bench and do they belong there? For example a bench of Pozo Nootbar Gorman Burleson is wasting good young trade pieces

Good points

[82birds]

manager not named Oli

[ilcubuffs]

40 players with MLB quality skills. Marmot no where near Cardinal organization.

[alw80]

They'll be cutting payroll this offseaosn.

[Youboughtit]

They'll be cutting payroll this offseaosn.

They can do that and add younger higher upside by selling now. Tigers and 6 other teams want Helsley and recent report is the also want Arenado. How about Helsley and Aranado for Jobe?

[scoutyjones2]

40 players with MLB quality skills. Marmot no where near Cardinal organization.

Why? Has he had that before? Maybe 2022...

[Youboughtit]

40 players with MLB quality skills. Marmot no where near Cardinal organization.

Why? Has he had that before? Maybe 2022...

40 B-C grade players. They are missing the A+ players to build around like a 35/100 hitter or a 18 game winner. When they get those players the rest will fall into place. How do they get them? SPEND THE $100m they cut from payroll after this season.

[scoutyjones2]

40 players with MLB quality skills. Marmot no where near Cardinal organization.

Why? Has he had that before? Maybe 2022...

40 B-C grade players. They are missing the A+ players to build around like a 35/100 hitter or a 18 game winner. When they get those players the rest will fall into place. How do they get them? SPEND THE $100m they cut from payroll after this season.

So Oli isn't to blame for having an above 500 club?