Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
You can sign him after you trade him too! :lol:
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
Closers are bad investments especially if you aren’t a big market team
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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Zero chance the cardinals sign a 30+yr old close to a long-term deal. And I support them not doing so. The regression is already obvious
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
Trade him, get the assets now.

Then just re-sign him this offseason if the price is right. :wink:
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As with all things Mo he’s already late on selling. Should have been last season or the offseason
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Closer isn't that important right now. No need to spend big $$$ on a position that will have little impact on winning.
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
The problem with this is that we are not close.

Bloom certainly knows this.

2027 at the earliest for contention.

Trade Helsley.
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
Would be just another BAD decision if they didn't get all they could get for him this week.
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:00 pm
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
Closers are bad investments especially if you aren’t a big market team
Why is a closer a bad investment? Seems like a pretty important spot to me.
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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woofy25 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 18:17 pm Zero chance the cardinals sign a 30+yr old close to a long-term deal. And I support them not doing so. The regression is already obvious
Closer would be the last place I’d worry too much about age, but it isn’t happening. You are correct
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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Nada.

This is the time for clear thinking.

Trade him.
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
No, no, no
You trade him for players and THEN sign him this winter as free agents.
Best of both worlds.

Same as Yankees did in 2006 with Chapman ..traded him to Cubs then got him back after season.
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rockondlouie wrote: 30 Jul 2025 08:51 am
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
Trade him, get the assets now.

Then just re-sign him this offseason if the price is right. :wink:
Without looking it up....Didn't something similar happen between the Cardinals and John Tudor?
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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tgharris wrote: 30 Jul 2025 09:46 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Jul 2025 08:51 am
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
Trade him, get the assets now.

Then just re-sign him this offseason if the price is right. :wink:
Without looking it up....Didn't something similar happen between the Cardinals and John Tudor?
Yes!

I know the Blues did it too w/D. Weight and K. Tkachuk!
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Re: Cards could choose to re-sign Helsley instead

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tgharris wrote: 30 Jul 2025 09:46 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Jul 2025 08:51 am
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jul 2025 17:29 pm If Bloom chooses and convinces DeWitt that we are close, he could choose to re-sign Helsley (Who is reportedly opened to an extension and staying) instead of trading him.

I fear Cardstalk would riot if that happens
Trade him, get the assets now.

Then just re-sign him this offseason if the price is right. :wink:
Without looking it up....Didn't something similar happen between the Cardinals and John Tudor?
I didn't remember this so looked it up. He was traded sometime during the 1988 season to the Dodgers and started 9 games but then spent '89 with them too. However, he only pitched 14 innings (3 starts) for them that year, so I assume he was injured.

He then came back to the Cardinals in 1990 and went 12-4, pitching 146 innings with an ERA of 2.40. That was his last season according to the records. So anyway, not quite the same scenario.
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