Make or break year for Kirby Moore

[hdhntr148]

Kirby came to MU and had a solid first year to the point other programs came sniffing around and there was even talk about HCing positions. Then despite having a whole off-season plus veteran solid QB, solid RB and WR rooms including a couple of stars had a truly mediocre non aggressive offense in 24 with really not good results. you notice no mentions of anyone trying to poach him or truly any mention of him in off-season, that's how poor his playcalling and scheming were. Bloom is definitely off his rose. He was JAG nothing special at all.

So after a off season of reflecting and hopefully working with his brother who was brilliant for the Eagles will be very interesting to see how things go. Will his playcalling be way too safe, with few successful down field throws and passing attack too close to LOS or will he come out rocking and firing and going for it from the getgo. Has two solid QB's to work with who have some skills if very little experience or tape to analyze, can he get them up to speed and taking advantage of what they do best?

Will have solid O line to establish running attack and protecting his QB's Lets hope he pulls his head out of his rectum and goes for it instead of playing it safe. Drink has turned into his best role of CEO. DC has done solid job but we need a great offense to get into CFP and not just another good season. Look at preseason poll picking MU 12th. Even after back to back excellent seasons and 21 wins. we get no respect, no respect indeed.

[winonsports]

Good heavens.

Why do some insist on making things much more than are and to the extreme?

And the worst part is it's cliche driven to say "look at me"

[11WSChamps]

The philosophy of the head coach is complementary football.

Run the football, have balance and play good defense, bring physicality which is a hallmark in the SEC.

That doesn't usually include chucking the football 40-50-times a game all over the field. That's what a lot of posters apparently here want to see and while it may have its moments it isn't conducive to being what this offensive group needs to do to win a lot of games.

Would I like to see a little less conservative play at a specific time, yeah maybe but playing to the team's strengths and knowing what they are has merit.

Picking your spots and getting the right matchups downfield is of course a part of Moore's job but then you have to execute and with a new QB that may take some time.

Nothing like the excitement as a one on one matchup and your QB launching a spiral 40-50 yards downfield and the crowd getting into the moment of it..I get it. But I lean towards being physical and setting the tone running the ball and on the flip side stopping the run.

I believe that's what we're in for primarily for the season.

[woofy25]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

[rezero]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

What I questioned last year is was whether this truly all Kirby or was he getting some direction from Drink. In 2023 our offense seemed to be more dynamic than 2024. I was expecting much bigger things but it seemed we tightened up and did not use Burden or MJohnson to their fullest. When you have a weapon like Burden and post a 61 catch 675yd season with games of 3 yds, 11 yds, and 15 yds that is pretty underwhelming.

[winonsports]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

Some of the more disappointing aspects were being 16th nationally in third down conversions.

Only 4 fumbles and 5 interceptions.

#10 in red zone offense

7th in time of possession

17th in wins

[11WSChamps]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

What I questioned last year is was whether this truly all Kirby or was he getting some direction from Drink. In 2023 our offense seemed to be more dynamic than 2024. I was expecting much bigger things but it seemed we tightened up and did not use Burden or MJohnson to their fullest. When you have a weapon like Burden and post a 61 catch 675yd season with games of 3 yds, 11 yds, and 15 yds that is pretty underwhelming.

At the collegiate level I would think the head coach and offensive coordinator pretty much have to be on the same page especially since Drinkwitz came from that side of the ball.

He has mentioned on several occasions how much he wants his QB to value the ball which to me means error on the side of caution or being conservative as opposed to risking turnovers which more times than not are the difference in any close game.

Why Burden wasn't utilized more is something one of our "crack" MU media folk should have asked during the season.

[winonsports]

At the collegiate level I would think the head coach and offensive coordinator pretty much have to be on the same page especially since Drinkwitz came from that side of the ball.

He has mentioned on several occasions how much he wants his QB to value the ball which to me means error on the side of caution or being conservative as opposed to risking turnovers which more times than not are the difference in any close game.

Why Burden wasn't utilized more is something one of our "crack" MU media folk should have asked during the season.

It was because Drink and Moore were on the same page, since Drinkwitz came from that side of the ball. Mizzou valued the ball and had less than ten turnovers, converted a lot third downs, and converted in the red zone, which was the difference in winning a lot of close games.

And when Burden was needed, the coaches utilized him in many clutch situations, and LB3 made the play.

[Red7]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

What I questioned last year is was whether this truly all Kirby or was he getting some direction from Drink. In 2023 our offense seemed to be more dynamic than 2024. I was expecting much bigger things but it seemed we tightened up and did not use Burden or MJohnson to their fullest. When you have a weapon like Burden and post a 61 catch 675yd season with games of 3 yds, 11 yds, and 15 yds that is pretty underwhelming.

At the collegiate level I would think the head coach and offensive coordinator pretty much have to be on the same page especially since Drinkwitz came from that side of the ball.

He has mentioned on several occasions how much he wants his QB to value the ball which to me means error on the side of caution or being conservative as opposed to risking turnovers which more times than not are the difference in any close game.

Why Burden wasn't utilized more is something one of our "crack" MU media folk should have asked during the season.

Burden was more involved than the stats indicate. Unfortunately, his QB had trouble delivering the ball on target and on time. Another issue was the O-line. They frequently got pushed back into the backfield that forced Burden to deepen his arc on sweeps, giving the pursuit time to catch up. Hopefully, Pribula will be able to read through his progressions quickly and deliver the ball on time and on target.

[winonsports]

Burden was more involved than the stats indicate. Unfortunately, his QB had trouble delivering the ball on target and on time

The stats indicated this TD, with Cook delivering a perfect ball on the first play of OT, tied the game, and Mizzou eventually won.

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[woofy25]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

Some of the more disappointing aspects were being 16th nationally in third down conversions.

Only 4 fumbles and 5 interceptions.

#10 in red zone offense

7th in time of possession

17th in wins

I didn't say the win total was disappointing. The #10 in red zone offense culminated in a lot of field goals.
Thank goodness they didn't turn over the ball much. That would have been disastrous for a team that was:
63rd in yds/gm
56th in pts/gm
tied for 101st in passing tds
tied for 81st in yds/carry

So, you can celebrate time of possession if you want. That can also mean the offense is not explosive, which was true of last year's Tigers. If you don't think Kirby Moore's offense needs to improve these numbers, then I guess you aren't interested Mizzou in making the playoff.

[woofy25]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

What I questioned last year is was whether this truly all Kirby or was he getting some direction from Drink. In 2023 our offense seemed to be more dynamic than 2024. I was expecting much bigger things but it seemed we tightened up and did not use Burden or MJohnson to their fullest. When you have a weapon like Burden and post a 61 catch 675yd season with games of 3 yds, 11 yds, and 15 yds that is pretty underwhelming.

Yes, it was so frustrating to see so many games in which the broadcasters would point out how long it took for Burden to get his first touch. I also don't understand why Johnson wasn't thrown deep balls a couple times per game. It was a very frustrating offense to watch. Cook's accuracy dropped significantly too, so it wasn't all the scheme.

[winonsports]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

Some of the more disappointing aspects were being 16th nationally in third down conversions.

Only 4 fumbles and 5 interceptions.

#10 in red zone offense

7th in time of possession

17th in wins

I didn't say the win total was disappointing. The #10 in red zone offense culminated in a lot of field goals.
Thank goodness they didn't turn over the ball much. That would have been disastrous for a team that was:
63rd in yds/gm
56th in pts/gm
tied for 101st in passing tds
tied for 81st in yds/carry

So, you can celebrate time of possession if you want. That can also mean the offense is not explosive, which was true of last year's Tigers. If you don't think Kirby Moore's offense needs to improve these numbers, then I guess you aren't interested Mizzou in making the playoff.

No, you said the offense which controlled the ball, didn't turn it over and produced those wins was INCREDIBLY disappointing.

Mizzou scored more than twice as many TD than FG in the red zone.

That's due to the high, third-down conversion rate, even though TD's aren't factored into it.

[icon]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

You can blame a lot of that on Cook's inability to hit the long pass early in the season. Many were tried and none were completed. I think Moore kind of gave up on throwing deep after Cook couldn't do it.

[11WSChamps]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

What I questioned last year is was whether this truly all Kirby or was he getting some direction from Drink. In 2023 our offense seemed to be more dynamic than 2024. I was expecting much bigger things but it seemed we tightened up and did not use Burden or MJohnson to their fullest. When you have a weapon like Burden and post a 61 catch 675yd season with games of 3 yds, 11 yds, and 15 yds that is pretty underwhelming.

Yes, it was so frustrating to see so many games in which the broadcasters would point out how long it took for Burden to get his first touch. I also don't understand why Johnson wasn't thrown deep balls a couple times per game. It was a very frustrating offense to watch. Cook's accuracy dropped significantly too, so it wasn't all the scheme.

You keep answering your own question.

It's obvious the braintrust wasn't confident in a consistent downfield passing game for whatever reason.

The fact they won as many games as they did without one is incredible.

[woofy25]

The offense was incredibly disappointing last season. Kirby has STP as far as I’m concerned.

Some of the more disappointing aspects were being 16th nationally in third down conversions.

Only 4 fumbles and 5 interceptions.

#10 in red zone offense

7th in time of possession

17th in wins

I didn't say the win total was disappointing. The #10 in red zone offense culminated in a lot of field goals.
Thank goodness they didn't turn over the ball much. That would have been disastrous for a team that was:
63rd in yds/gm
56th in pts/gm
tied for 101st in passing tds
tied for 81st in yds/carry

So, you can celebrate time of possession if you want. That can also mean the offense is not explosive, which was true of last year's Tigers. If you don't think Kirby Moore's offense needs to improve these numbers, then I guess you aren't interested Mizzou in making the playoff.

No, you said the offense which controlled the ball, didn't turn it over and produced those wins was INCREDIBLY disappointing.

Mizzou scored more than twice as many TD than FG in the red zone.

That's due to the high, third-down conversion rate, even though TD's aren't factored into it.

They were 56th in pts scored, ok. That’s not good enough if the goal is to be a top 11 team