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Will there be one pitcher with 200 innings pitched this season? Last season 4 pitchers made the 200+ IP threshold.

It’s July 28th and there is 1 pitcher with 140+ IP, which is Garrett Crochet. Beyond him there are only 5 more pitchers with at least 130 IP. It would take a really solid 2 months of starts from those guys to get there.

Apparently the game has changed.

for the better

150 is the new 200. I thought it was funny after fedde was traded I looked him up on baseball reference and saw he was still tied for the league in shutouts with 1 lol the games changed a lot

Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.

Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.

Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.

And they’re usually not even a very good five innings

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.

Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.

Agree.

Also miss the pitching whisperer managers who simply had a knack for knowing when to go get em and when to leave em alone.

That decision making has largely been removed through the game. Pitch count, times through the order etc etc has provided a lot of cover for the clueless managers of today.

dugoutrex wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:03 pm for the better

Respectfully disagree.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:07 pm 150 is the new 200. I thought it was funny after fedde was traded I looked him up on baseball reference and saw he was still tied for the league in shutouts with 1 lol the games changed a lot

Without looking it up I'd bet he will be the only pitcher this decade to throw a 110 pitch complete game with a 10 run lead.

swatski wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:30 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:03 pm for the better

Respectfully disagree.

to each his own - I love most all of the changes over the past few years and look forward to an automated strike zone too!

dugoutrex wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:03 pm for the better

I don’t think it’s for the better at all. It’s not like less pitchers are getting hurt. It makes it harder on hitters as well since the relievers are coming in fresh in the middle to late innings. That creates less action IMO since generally speaking relievers are better at striking out hitters than SPs are. To me there is little good about a SP pitching less.

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:24 pm

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.

Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.

Agree.

Also miss the pitching whisperer managers who simply had a knack for knowing when to go get em and when to leave em alone.

That decision making has largely been removed through the game. Pitch count, times through the order etc etc has provided a lot of cover for the clueless managers of today.

The pitching coaches who taken a broken down pile of nothing and turn it into a 15-20 game winner

HorseTrader wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 18:11 pm

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:24 pm

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.

Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.

Agree.

Also miss the pitching whisperer managers who simply had a knack for knowing when to go get em and when to leave em alone.

That decision making has largely been removed through the game. Pitch count, times through the order etc etc has provided a lot of cover for the clueless managers of today.

The pitching coaches who taken a broken down pile of nothing and turn it into a 15-20 game winner

The Pursuit of Baseballs Holy Grail has made him obsolete or a curiosity in today's game.

Holy Grail?
The 100 MPH Minimum arms.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:22 pm

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.

Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.

And they’re usually not even a very good five innings

They can be pitching very well. They give up a leadoff hit in the 5th or 6th
and are yanked.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:22 pm

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm

Dazepster wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.

Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.

And they’re usually not even a very good five innings

Nope. I'd understand if it was five innings and you gassed 12 hitters on strikes. That's bound to eat up a lot of pitches. But I don't see that often.