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Hence, Roby, Franklin, Graceffo
We could be looking at one heck of a bullpen from the RH side if these guys pan out.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
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Gray will only be here through next year. I wouldn't bet on seeing him and Doyle in a rotation together.
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we're going to be doing a lot of trading from Depth (catcher, LHP starters in the Minors, etc) starting this winter. I believe we don't know a starting pitcher or two at the moment. Nor do we know a couple of Starting OF at the moment. And I can't wait to be honest.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:03 am We could be looking at one heck of a bullpen from the RH side if these guys pan out.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
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An honest question. How does Burleson fit into your plans for the next few seasons?craviduce wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:28 amwe're going to be doing a lot of trading from Depth (catcher, LHP starters in the Minors, etc) starting this winter. I believe we don't know a starting pitcher or two at the moment. Nor do we know a couple of Starting OF at the moment. And I can't wait to be honest.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:03 am We could be looking at one heck of a bullpen from the RH side if these guys pan out.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
Re: Hence, Roby, Franklin, Graceffo
the same as every other player does....see what you can get for him. The plan is the future. These guys like Walker, Gorman, Burleson, Winn, Leahy, Pallante will start costing ARB money soon. If you can trade a lot of players with control, you can get back 1 1/2 to 2 times the amount in depth.Shady wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:31 amAn honest question. How does Burleson fit into your plans for the next few seasons?craviduce wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:28 amwe're going to be doing a lot of trading from Depth (catcher, LHP starters in the Minors, etc) starting this winter. I believe we don't know a starting pitcher or two at the moment. Nor do we know a couple of Starting OF at the moment. And I can't wait to be honest.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:03 am We could be looking at one heck of a bullpen from the RH side if these guys pan out.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
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SMHShady wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:31 amAn honest question. How does Burleson fit into your plans for the next few seasons?craviduce wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:28 amwe're going to be doing a lot of trading from Depth (catcher, LHP starters in the Minors, etc) starting this winter. I believe we don't know a starting pitcher or two at the moment. Nor do we know a couple of Starting OF at the moment. And I can't wait to be honest.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:03 am We could be looking at one heck of a bullpen from the RH side if these guys pan out.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
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Hence should've been transitioned to the closer role this season in anticipation of him getting a shot at replacing Helsley.
He's NOT a starter.
He's NOT a starter.
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Rock... that is becoming more and more of an option.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:46 am Hence should've been transitioned to the closer role this season in anticipation of him getting a shot at replacing Helsley.
He's NOT a starter.
Electric arm but can’t stay healthy.
Hopefully he’s not the second coming of Alex Reyes?
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or we will have a heck of a Disabled list...Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:03 am We could be looking at one heck of a bullpen from the RH side if these guys pan out.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
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I'd love for the kid to have been healthy and able to handle 150 innings but we now know that's not happening.Cusecards wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:54 amRock... that is becoming more and more of an option.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:46 am Hence should've been transitioned to the closer role this season in anticipation of him getting a shot at replacing Helsley.
He's NOT a starter.
Electric arm but can’t stay healthy.
Hopefully he’s not the second coming of Alex Reyes?
But I've been saying for two years now cuse that he's got D. Williams like potential as a closer, upper 90's fastball and a great changeup.
That plays in MLB from a closer!
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I have thought for years that he should become the closer but now I have concerns. You can't count on him to be healthy enough to be your closer for a year. He might very well be the second coming of Reyes. I would trade him as part of a package if the Cardinals can get a legit #1 or #2 starter.Cusecards wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:54 amRock... that is becoming more and more of an option.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:46 am Hence should've been transitioned to the closer role this season in anticipation of him getting a shot at replacing Helsley.
He's NOT a starter.
Electric arm but can’t stay healthy.
Hopefully he’s not the second coming of Alex Reyes?
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WTH does Alec Burleson have to do with this topic??Shady wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:31 amAn honest question. How does Burleson fit into your plans for the next few seasons?craviduce wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:28 amwe're going to be doing a lot of trading from Depth (catcher, LHP starters in the Minors, etc) starting this winter. I believe we don't know a starting pitcher or two at the moment. Nor do we know a couple of Starting OF at the moment. And I can't wait to be honest.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:03 am We could be looking at one heck of a bullpen from the RH side if these guys pan out.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
This kid probably had to get a restraining order against you.
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Most pitchers in the minors come up as starters to pile up innings.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 11:32 amI'd love for the kid to have been healthy and able to handle 150 innings but we now know that's not happening.Cusecards wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:54 amRock... that is becoming more and more of an option.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:46 am Hence should've been transitioned to the closer role this season in anticipation of him getting a shot at replacing Helsley.
He's NOT a starter.
Electric arm but can’t stay healthy.
Hopefully he’s not the second coming of Alex Reyes?
But I've been saying for two years now cuse that he's got D. Williams like potential as a closer, upper 90's fastball and a great changeup.
That plays in MLB from a closer!
Then they transition to the BP as needed.
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I thought of Reyes also.KeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 11:52 amI have thought for years that he should become the closer but now I have concerns. You can't count on him to be healthy enough to be your closer for a year. He might very well be the second coming of Reyes. I would trade him as part of a package if the Cardinals can get a legit #1 or #2 starter.Cusecards wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:54 amRock... that is becoming more and more of an option.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:46 am Hence should've been transitioned to the closer role this season in anticipation of him getting a shot at replacing Helsley.
He's NOT a starter.
Electric arm but can’t stay healthy.
Hopefully he’s not the second coming of Alex Reyes?
If you go back 4-5 years the plan seemed to be Reyes & Flaherty fronting the rotation.
We all know what happened.
Funny....they traded Alcantara & Gallen who both excelled but now THEY are on the trading block.
You never know?
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Maybe he was given a hypnotic suggestion by Burleson’s Agent??CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 12:19 pmWTH does Alec Burleson have to do with this topic??Shady wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:31 amAn honest question. How does Burleson fit into your plans for the next few seasons?craviduce wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:28 amwe're going to be doing a lot of trading from Depth (catcher, LHP starters in the Minors, etc) starting this winter. I believe we don't know a starting pitcher or two at the moment. Nor do we know a couple of Starting OF at the moment. And I can't wait to be honest.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:03 am We could be looking at one heck of a bullpen from the RH side if these guys pan out.
Sure, I hope 1 becomes a legit MLB starter, but I'd accept them as great BP arms. With starters like Gray, Doyle, Lbby, McGreevy, and potentially Mathews in the system, starting spots may get full. Especially if Bloom is wise enough to hunt a 1/2 through free agency or trade.
This kid probably had to get a restraining order against you.
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Re: Hence, Roby, Franklin, Graceffo
YepCusecards wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 15:04 pmMost pitchers in the minors come up as starters to pile up innings.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 11:32 amI'd love for the kid to have been healthy and able to handle 150 innings but we now know that's not happening.Cusecards wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:54 amRock... that is becoming more and more of an option.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:46 am Hence should've been transitioned to the closer role this season in anticipation of him getting a shot at replacing Helsley.
He's NOT a starter.
Electric arm but can’t stay healthy.
Hopefully he’s not the second coming of Alex Reyes?
But I've been saying for two years now cuse that he's got D. Williams like potential as a closer, upper 90's fastball and a great changeup.
That plays in MLB from a closer!
Then they transition to the BP as needed.
They almost all start their careers as starters but teams quickly can see who might make it to the big leagues as a starter and who needs to be transitioned to the pen'.
Hence is one of them, he's not a starter.