So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
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So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
might as well make him throw innings.
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Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
From what I've read, the Cardinals are enamored by Roby's electric stuff. I understand why they are cautious.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
If Roby were in a system with pitching depth he would be kicking rocksShady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:49 pmFrom what I've read, the Cardinals are enamored by Roby's electric stuff. I understand why they are cautious.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
Two words: Roddery Munoz.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
Actually, considering the current situation, you might be right.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:52 pmTwo words: Roddery Munoz.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
how would they manage that? Would be the same secret Stretch Out Planning that they should've used for Matz?Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:53 pmActually, considering the current situation, you might be right.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:52 pmTwo words: Roddery Munoz.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"

They would need to get around his inability to not suck after his 2nd out. Can that be done?
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
So what's your solution? The only thing you've offered if giving Mikolas another start. That's truly brilliant.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:58 pmhow would they manage that? Would be the same secret Stretch Out Planning that they should've used for Matz?Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:53 pmActually, considering the current situation, you might be right.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:52 pmTwo words: Roddery Munoz.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
They would need to get around his inability to not suck after his 2nd out. Can that be done?
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
Here's the situation. McGreevey is a natural replacement for one SP and that one, it turns out, is Fedde.
Mikolas has to go as well but who do you replace him with? There's no depth and there hasn't been for awhile.
You can scream "bullpen start" all you want (and that includes Matz as a solution), but part of the issue is the guys we count on to eat innings aren't and there aren't enough seats on the Memphis Shuttle. We need someone to help keep innings away from the bullpen, not just guarantee them 9 in a game.
Mikolas has to go as well but who do you replace him with? There's no depth and there hasn't been for awhile.
You can scream "bullpen start" all you want (and that includes Matz as a solution), but part of the issue is the guys we count on to eat innings aren't and there aren't enough seats on the Memphis Shuttle. We need someone to help keep innings away from the bullpen, not just guarantee them 9 in a game.
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
and I explained why...they probably need to get throw away players back on trades that can start innings...we only need 5 or 6 starts covered to end the season....probably watch the waiver wire.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 18:01 pmSo what's your solution? The only thing you've offered if giving Mikolas another start.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:58 pmhow would they manage that? Would be the same secret Stretch Out Planning that they should've used for Matz?Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:53 pmActually, considering the current situation, you might be right.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:52 pmTwo words: Roddery Munoz.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
They would need to get around his inability to not suck after his 2nd out. Can that be done?
Unless Ian Bedell is the second coming of Christ during his rehab, we have to use Mikolas....for now. You can't pen hopes on a AAA reliever who couldn't cut it as a starter last year, nor can you pen hopes on Roby for the two reasons I stated, but you refuse to accept. The IL is a real thing...and 7 Day IL in the minors doesn't mean it's toe nail
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
Sorry, that's not very enlightening.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 18:05 pmand I explained why...they probably need to get throw away players back on trades that can start innings...we only need 5 or 6 starts covered to end the season....probably watch the waiver wire.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 18:01 pmSo what's your solution? The only thing you've offered if giving Mikolas another start.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:58 pmhow would they manage that? Would be the same secret Stretch Out Planning that they should've used for Matz?Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:53 pmActually, considering the current situation, you might be right.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:52 pmTwo words: Roddery Munoz.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
They would need to get around his inability to not suck after his 2nd out. Can that be done?
Unless Ian Bedell is the second coming of Christ during his rehab, we have to use Mikolas....for now. You can't pen hopes on a AAA reliever who couldn't cut it as a starter last year, nor can you pen hopes on Roby for the two reasons I stated, but you refuse to accept. The IL is a real thing...and 7 Day IL in the minors doesn't mean it's toe nail
Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there
That's because your skull has a lead liningShady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 18:06 pmSorry, that's not very enlightening.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 18:05 pmand I explained why...they probably need to get throw away players back on trades that can start innings...we only need 5 or 6 starts covered to end the season....probably watch the waiver wire.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 18:01 pmSo what's your solution? The only thing you've offered if giving Mikolas another start.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:58 pmhow would they manage that? Would be the same secret Stretch Out Planning that they should've used for Matz?Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:53 pmActually, considering the current situation, you might be right.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:52 pmTwo words: Roddery Munoz.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:46 pmMathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.Shady wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:40 pmMatz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 17:25 pmyou have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.
There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.
So...Mikolas pitches.
Not really a circus. It's necessity
R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
They would need to get around his inability to not suck after his 2nd out. Can that be done?
Unless Ian Bedell is the second coming of Christ during his rehab, we have to use Mikolas....for now. You can't pen hopes on a AAA reliever who couldn't cut it as a starter last year, nor can you pen hopes on Roby for the two reasons I stated, but you refuse to accept. The IL is a real thing...and 7 Day IL in the minors doesn't mean it's toe nail