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Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 16:43 pm
by Shady
I realize they don't grow on trees. I thought Herrera might be the answer. But both he and Contreras seem to be more suited as 5 and 6 types. The Cardinals have managed to establish a respectable #3 hitter in Burleson. And Wetherholt should be an outstanding #2 hitter behind Donovan.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 17:49 pm
by Shady
Here's the way I see things shaping up for the lineup next season. There's some good potential if Mo/Bloom can acquire a stud at cleanup hitter.
1) Donovan
2) Wetherholt
3) Burleson
4) Need a true thumper than doesn't have an excessive k rate.
5) Herrera
6) Contreras
7) ? Walker, Gorman or Saggese
Eight) Winn
9) Scott

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:07 pm
by Mort Gage
Shady wrote: 19 Jul 2025 17:49 pm Here's the way I see things shaping up for the lineup next season. There's some good potential if Mo/Bloom can acquire a stud at cleanup hitter.
1) Donovan
2) Wetherholt
3) Burleson
4) Need a true thumper than doesn't have an excessive k rate.
5) Herrera
6) Contreras
7) ? Walker, Gorman or Saggese
Eight) Winn
9) Scott
Nice self bump. The Cards already have that cleanup thumper. His name is Alec Burleson, oh ye of little faith.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: 19 Jul 2025 16:43 pm I realize they don't grow on trees. I thought Herrera might be the answer. But both he and Contreras seem to be more suited as 5 and 6 types. The Cardinals have managed to establish a respectable #3 hitter in Burleson. And Wetherholt should be an outstanding #2 hitter behind Donovan.
Wow, did you come up with that, all by yourself

Impressive :roll:

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:15 pm
by Cusecards
So....we need to acquire a cleanup thumper that doesn’t strike out?
Of course that is true.
But seeing as how more than 20 other teams need the same thumper how do you propose we do that??

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:37 pm
by Youboughtit
Mort Gage wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:07 pm
Shady wrote: 19 Jul 2025 17:49 pm Here's the way I see things shaping up for the lineup next season. There's some good potential if Mo/Bloom can acquire a stud at cleanup hitter.
1) Donovan
2) Wetherholt
3) Burleson
4) Need a true thumper than doesn't have an excessive k rate.
5) Herrera
6) Contreras
7) ? Walker, Gorman or Saggese
Eight) Winn
9) Scott
Nice self bump. The Cards already have that cleanup thumper. His name is Alec Burleson, oh ye of little faith.
Not a 35/100 type hitter. They need a power bat

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:40 pm
by Youboughtit
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:15 pm So....we need to acquire a cleanup thumper that doesn’t strike out?
Of course that is true.
But seeing as how more than 20 other teams need the same thumper how do you propose we do that??
20 hitters between 15 teams with more than 20HR at all star break and the Cardinals most is 12. Last in the MLB. He’s NOT wrong.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
by Cusecards
Youboughtit wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:40 pm
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:15 pm So....we need to acquire a cleanup thumper that doesn’t strike out?
Of course that is true.
But seeing as how more than 20 other teams need the same thumper how do you propose we do that??
20 hitters between 15 teams with more than 20HR at all star break and the Cardinals most is 12. Last in the MLB. He’s NOT wrong.
I didn’t say he was wrong. I asked HOW we accomplish that??
LOL... the OP is the epitome of Captain Obvious.
He starts 3 or 4 threads per day most of which are repetitive and laughingly obvious in nature.

You know what? I rarely start threads but I’m thinking of one for tomorrow:

“Cards need dominant Ace who strikes out a ton of hitters”!!

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:51 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
Shady wrote: 19 Jul 2025 16:43 pm I realize they don't grow on trees. I thought Herrera might be the answer. But both he and Contreras seem to be more suited as 5 and 6 types. The Cardinals have managed to establish a respectable #3 hitter in Burleson. And Wetherholt should be an outstanding #2 hitter behind Donovan.
Career OPS under .735 is not a respectable 3rd hitter. Low baseball IQ.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:53 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:40 pm
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:15 pm So....we need to acquire a cleanup thumper that doesn’t strike out?
Of course that is true.
But seeing as how more than 20 other teams need the same thumper how do you propose we do that??
20 hitters between 15 teams with more than 20HR at all star break and the Cardinals most is 12. Last in the MLB. He’s NOT wrong.
I didn’t say he was wrong. I asked HOW we accomplish that??
LOL... the OP is the epitome of Captain Obvious.
He starts 3 or 4 threads per day most of which are repetitive and laughingly obvious in nature.

You know what? I rarely start threads but I’m thinking of one for tomorrow:

“Cards need dominant Ace who strikes out a ton of hitters”!!
New Topic idea: “Cards need a roster that can win the World Series”.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:54 pm
by Joseph-Magrane
They also need a #1, 2, 4 starter
A 1B, 2B, 3B and probably 2 starting OFs

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:57 pm
by JuanAgosto
They need a new roster.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:58 pm
by butsir01
New ownership.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 18:58 pm
by Youboughtit
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:40 pm
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:15 pm So....we need to acquire a cleanup thumper that doesn’t strike out?
Of course that is true.
But seeing as how more than 20 other teams need the same thumper how do you propose we do that??
20 hitters between 15 teams with more than 20HR at all star break and the Cardinals most is 12. Last in the MLB. He’s NOT wrong.
I didn’t say he was wrong. I asked HOW we accomplish that??
LOL... the OP is the epitome of Captain Obvious.
He starts 3 or 4 threads per day most of which are repetitive and laughingly obvious in nature.

You know what? I rarely start threads but I’m thinking of one for tomorrow:

“Cards need dominant Ace who strikes out a ton of hitters”!!
Noot Walker Gorman Areanado Helsley and anyone not named Wetherholt should be available because they have 3-4 more serviceable bats than they can play everyday. Get that guy then build around him as the cornerstone.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 19:01 pm
by Youboughtit
Joseph-Magrane wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:54 pm They also need a #1, 2, 4 starter
A 1B, 2B, 3B and probably 2 starting OFs
I like their young arms

Mathews
Hence
McGreevy
Libertore
Pallante
Doyle

However by the time all them get to the MLb Gray will be leaving as a FA.

Re: Cards still need a true cleanup thumper

Posted: 19 Jul 2025 19:37 pm
by Cusecards
Youboughtit wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:58 pm
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:40 pm
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 18:15 pm So....we need to acquire a cleanup thumper that doesn’t strike out?
Of course that is true.
But seeing as how more than 20 other teams need the same thumper how do you propose we do that??
20 hitters between 15 teams with more than 20HR at all star break and the Cardinals most is 12. Last in the MLB. He’s NOT wrong.
I didn’t say he was wrong. I asked HOW we accomplish that??
LOL... the OP is the epitome of Captain Obvious.
He starts 3 or 4 threads per day most of which are repetitive and laughingly obvious in nature.

You know what? I rarely start threads but I’m thinking of one for tomorrow:

“Cards need dominant Ace who strikes out a ton of hitters”!!
Noot Walker Gorman Areanado Helsley and anyone not named Wetherholt should be available because they have 3-4 more serviceable bats than they can play everyday. Get that guy then build around him as the cornerstone.
Definitely have decisions to make heading into 2026!