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Pallante

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Good to see he's back to his [shirt] (donkey) self!!!!!
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He’s every bit as bad as Fedde and Miles, but he gets a pass for not being old
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Joseph-Magrane wrote: 18 Jul 2025 21:38 pm He’s every bit as bad as Fedde and Miles, but he gets a pass for not being old
Nobody had ridiculously high hopes for him anyway. He’s mostly in there because Mo no longer felt like doing his job and was young and cheap enough to be able to say “f*** it let’s just see what he’s about” (youth movement)

He has a future, but in the pen.
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Bloom is going to have a mess that mo leaves him to clean up. If you put mcgreevy in the rotation you still need two other starters next season Mathews walks too many to say yes hes ready and roby and hence are never healthy
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This is what happens when you go cheap with pitching...
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Carp4Cy wrote: 18 Jul 2025 21:58 pm This is what happens when you go cheap with pitching...
Sadly MM ain’t cheap
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Not as much as being cheap. I think that it has more to do with being inept at evaluating and developing talent. The ego and stubborness of Mo is mind boggling.
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Vacardfan1964 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:10 pm Not as much as being cheap. I think that it has more to do with being inept at evaluating and developing talent. The ego and stubborness of Mo is mind boggling.
Yawn.
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Explain to me how ego and stubbornness led to Cardinal problems. The game changed on them. Drafting in the mid 20's they could not get the top talent and with salaries thru the roof, they can't buy the top talent. Only 5 major league teams have smaller populations than the Cardinals. They are KC, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Cincy and the Pirates. Those 5 teams have had a very hard time competing. The Brewers won the central but look at the competition.
STL has no choice but to build from within and that will be a continuous process. Compete for 3 or 4, then lose your best players to FA. Then rebuild again. MLB must get a salary floor and a salary Cap and revenue sharing, just like the NFL. That system lets Buffalo and Cincy compete, The players will still get their money but it will not all be in the 6 major markets. They may have to go to Cleveland to get their 30 million a year. Last year the Dodgers spent a Billion dollars on salaries and are ready to add more. They get more in local TV money than the Cards get from all sources. It is impossible to compete for any length of time with the current system and there will be a strike after next season as the owners try to create a more level playing field.
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bretto12 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:31 pm Explain to me how ego and stubbornness led to Cardinal problems. The game changed on them. Drafting in the mid 20's they could not get the top talent and with salaries thru the roof, they can't buy the top talent. Only 5 major league teams have smaller populations than the Cardinals. They are KC, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Cincy and the Pirates. Those 5 teams have had a very hard time competing. The Brewers won the central but look at the competition.
STL has no choice but to build from within and that will be a continuous process. Compete for 3 or 4, then lose your best players to FA. Then rebuild again. MLB must get a salary floor and a salary Cap and revenue sharing, just like the NFL. That system lets Buffalo and Cincy compete, The players will still get their money but it will not all be in the 6 major markets. They may have to go to Cleveland to get their 30 million a year. Last year the Dodgers spent a Billion dollars on salaries and are ready to add more. They get more in local TV money than the Cards get from all sources. It is impossible to compete for any length of time with the current system and there will be a strike after next season as the owners try to create a more level playing field.

If the only way you can develop good to top prospects is by drafting them “before the mid 20s” then you suck at drafting and developing. Plain and simple
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Vacardfan1964 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:10 pm Not as much as being cheap. I think that it has more to do with being inept at evaluating and developing talent. The ego and stubborness of Mo is mind boggling.
+1.. Mo-rans arrogance and smugness is pissing off fans.. he should have been fired before the season but apparently DeTwit enjoys a stadium with very few fans.
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Hopefully C. Bloom moves on from Pallante who's regressed terribly, he's nothing but a low end #5 and can easily be replaced
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rockondlouie wrote: 19 Jul 2025 08:32 am Hopefully C. Bloom moves on from Pallante who's regressed terribly, he's nothing but a low end #5 and can easily be replaced
This was obvious when he was in BP……to think his stuff was mid rotation starter :lol: :lol: :lol: he got lucky when he was first inserted in rotation
It’s very tiring watching apparent idiots run this team

Trade Fedde
Release or Trade Miles
Stick Pallante in Pen
Acquire a real starter
Bring up McGreevey and hope the screwing around with him hasn’t mindphucked him
Find that 5th starter in minors or trade
Trade for OF bat
Win the 2nd half……but these losers running this thing are impotent and have no idea what winning is
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Goldfan wrote: 19 Jul 2025 08:44 am
rockondlouie wrote: 19 Jul 2025 08:32 am Hopefully C. Bloom moves on from Pallante who's regressed terribly, he's nothing but a low end #5 and can easily be replaced
This was obvious when he was in BP……to think his stuff was mid rotation starter :lol: :lol: :lol: he got lucky when he was first inserted in rotation
It’s very tiring watching apparent idiots run this team

Trade Fedde
Release or Trade Miles
Stick Pallante in Pen
Acquire a real starter
Bring up McGreevey and hope the screwing around with him hasn’t mindphucked him
Find that 5th starter in minors or trade
Trade for OF bat
Win the 2nd half……but these losers running this thing are impotent and have no idea what winning is
That stretch he had in 2024 after returning from Memphis fooled a lot of us as he looked so good (20 GS: 3.56 ERA/3.62 FiP), absolutely mid rotation good.

But's he slipped or the league has figured out what he's doing and he can't make another adjustment.

I don't even put him in the pen' since he can't get RHH'ers out (again), I'd rather cut the cord at seasons end and move on.
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The fastball is good +, the slider is passable.

No change or curve kills Andre. The hitters can sit and wait with no worry of off speed or change
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When the ball hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's Pallante...
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