Stillman

[Bluesbacker]

Lost a lot of respect kicking JK to the curb. Never expected this from him. What a *ick move.

[BluesDom]

20 years on his job. More fan duel than the Blues. TV is not the same as it was. Currently a lot less money. It makes sense if we were privy to the talks and the dollars. Why second guess? Why act like you know something?--we know nothing. In a different time JK would never be let go. Unique times.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

20 years on his job. More fan duel than the Blues. TV is not the same as it was. Currently a lot less money. It makes sense if we were privy to the talks and the dollars. Why second guess? Why act like you know something--we know nothing. In a different time JK would never be let go. Unique times.

Exactly. This does not change who Stillman is at all. He is a great owner if you ask me.

[netboy65]

20 years on his job. More fan duel than the Blues. TV is not the same as it was. Currently a lot less money. It makes sense if we were privy to the talks and the dollars. Why second guess? Why act like you know something--we know nothing. In a different time JK would never be let go. Unique times.

Exactly. This does not change who Stillman is at all. He is a great owner if you ask me.

The torch and pitchfork crowd has to have something to fret over

[John Cocktoastin]

Although I don't like the move and believe this cheapens the product he's trying to market immensely, he's a businessman. Pure and simple. Spreadsheets, accountants and bottom lines rule. Long term relationships and good faith do not.

Sucks. But, reality.

[netboy65]

Although I don't like the move and believe this cheapens the product he's trying to market immensely, he's a businessman. Pure and simple. Spreadsheets, accountants and bottom lines rule. Long term relationships and good faith do not.

Sucks. But, reality.

Pang was here several years and he left. Why? Due to uncertainty with Bally’s. John Kelly left here after his first stint. If the broadcaster does it, it’s fine but if the team does it it’s heresy??

[TheJackBurton]

Although I don't like the move and believe this cheapens the product he's trying to market immensely, he's a businessman. Pure and simple. Spreadsheets, accountants and bottom lines rule. Long term relationships and good faith do not.

Sucks. But, reality.

Pang was here several years and he left. Why? Due to uncertainty with Bally’s. John Kelly left here after his first stint. If the broadcaster does it, it’s fine but if the team does it it’s heresy??

Yep the Blues and Bally's were negotiating with Panger, but he went to Chicago since it was owned by Comcast so there was a lot more certainty there, and more money.

News that the Blackhawks have hired former Blues analyst Darren Pang is a “bittersweet development” for Pang, who is “moving into a much more stable situation -- and what he acknowledged is a salary that is substantially better than what he was offered to stay,” according to Dan Caesar of the ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH. Pang was “employed in St. Louis by Bally Sports Midwest.” But in his new job, Pang will “work for the team.” Blackhawks telecasts are “on NBC Sports Chicago, which has no Diamond ties.” Pang said that negotiations with Bally “were slow to begin,” and when he finally did receive an offer it “was for a very minimal raise.” He said he “did go back to them” with a counteroffer. Pang: “Once Chicago got to a certain point and was really serious with an incredible offer, we were now in a bit of a time crunch to either say ‘yes’ to them or let that pass us by and wait for Bally.” Pang said that his experience of having previously worked in a bankruptcy environment “played a role in his decision.” The then-Phoenix Coyotes “were in that plight when he moved to St. Louis.” Pang: “So I was prepared for a slow process and long, drawn out negotiation.” Caesar wrote that situation “might have influenced his latest decision” (ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH, 6/8).

So we all hate Panger correct?

[callitwhatyouwant]

The chances this was a stillman decision is pretty low. If he had any say in it, I’d venture to guess it was minuscule and if he could see how the new product is going.

No offense to the rage baiters here but if this is how you live your life, you must not trust anyone/ are unhappy all the time. Stillman and Co have done more than enough to show they are St. Louis first. One “bad” misstep isn’t enough to lose respect for the guy. Now if it became a pattern that’s a different story. But history shows that they have been a pretty good ownership group.

[a smell of green grass]

Army runs the Blues as THE MAN asks him to run it.

Army makes his moves based on the bottom line as well.

[netboy65]

Army runs the Blues as THE MAN asks him to run it.

Army makes his moves based on the bottom line as well.

Neither of those is remotely true, but carry on.

BTW, Army has nothing to do with the broadcasters

[sdaltons]

Yeah this is pretty silly. Maybe he wanted to retire anyway. There's so much we don't and won't know.

[John Cocktoastin]

Although I don't like the move and believe this cheapens the product he's trying to market immensely, he's a businessman. Pure and simple. Spreadsheets, accountants and bottom lines rule. Long term relationships and good faith do not.

Sucks. But, reality.

Pang was here several years and he left. Why? Due to uncertainty with Bally’s. John Kelly left here after his first stint. If the broadcaster does it, it’s fine but if the team does it it’s heresy??

No. It's business.

[SRV1990]

He's a great owner and this is so much to do about something so little in the big picture. Stay mad, I guess, but I'm going to move on and give it a chance. And if I don't like the way the simulcast goes? Oh well, I'll still watch and love Blues hockey.

[a smell of green grass]

Yeah this is pretty silly. Maybe he wanted to retire anyway. There's so much we don't and won't know.

I doubt that a man that worked 20+ years for the fans would not want to give the fans at least one night opportunity to say goodbye.

This was a jerk money move. The impact on the Blues faithful, including JK, was not even in the calculus.

[SRV1990]

Yeah this is pretty silly. Maybe he wanted to retire anyway. There's so much we don't and won't know.

But that doesn't stop people from screaming at the clouds and blaming whoever they can. No different than the weak who cry about what Army should or shouldn't have done, yet have less than zero clue about who he talked to, what he talked about, what was offered, what was available and on and on.

[bluetunehead]

A lot of people are disappointed but the fact that FanDuel is shifting to a simulcast model of TV & Radio together and went with the radio team is kind of all you need to know. This comes down to money, and FanDuel wants the whole operation to be cheaper. As they are a separate company not owned by the Blues, there is only so much a guy like Stillman can do. It probably would have come down to the Blues footing the bill to keep JK, but how long until that causes its own set of issues? If they offer to pay to keep JK, does FanDuel start pushing for them to cover more costs as time goes on? It sets an uncomfortable precedent for a small-to-medium market team like the Blues.