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I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm
by musicman
How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 16:32 pm
by hotrivets
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
If that gets him fired, okay.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 16:40 pm
by Ozziesfan41
hotrivets wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:32 pm
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
If that gets him fired, okay.
It would get him fired so that’s a plus. I don’t feel sorry for oli he’s the one who kept the rotation as is and made sure the cards best starting didn’t pitch in either series while the worst starting pitchers did

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 16:49 pm
by ramfandan
Unless Bloom agreed before accepting his 5 yr deal that Oli would be kept for his final year of 2026, Oli gets his pay if Bloom releases him .
So he will still be OK.

Guess we have to wait several months to see what Bloom has in store for Oli .

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 16:52 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
Why feel sorry for him. He has gotten to spend several years managing a big league team. All he had to do is follow the instructions of his benefactor. Unqualified little weasel, but got plucked from a dung pile by Johnny MO. He owes him big time.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 17:16 pm
by ICCFIM2
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:40 pm
hotrivets wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:32 pm
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
If that gets him fired, okay.
It would get him fired so that’s a plus. I don’t feel sorry for oli he’s the one who kept the rotation as is and made sure the cards best starting didn’t pitch in either series while the worst starting pitchers did
How was Oli supposed to change that? MO makes the roster moves, so McGreevy was not an option. He is stuck with the 5 he has. He rearranged the rotation to get an extra start in for Gray. That makes the most sense. We can blame MO and the DeWitt's for not eating one of the Mikolas or Fedde contracts and promoting McGreevy. That is not on Oli.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 17:32 pm
by ggnoobs
He's 39 and his baseball career might be over soon. That's a little sad for the guy.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm
by Red7
You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 18:34 pm
by Jatalk
Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
Oli will be replaced but probably with an Oli 2.0. As you described managers with a true feel for the game are vanishing.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
by JuanAgosto
Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
You are partially correct. Most managers today do follow the collaborative plan. But they also insert more sway than this pud does. And they lead the clubhouse. This pud cant.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
by Melville
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
Better question.
How are the players supposed to win when Super Slo Mo gives them The Marmot to work with?

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 18:58 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
Poach from the Brewers staff by offering them promotions. Coaches and scouts.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 19:01 pm
by Red7
JuanAgosto wrote: 10 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
You are partially correct. Most managers today do follow the collaborative plan. But they also insert more sway than this pud does. And they lead the clubhouse. This pud cant.
This pud has this team 5 games over .500. Think about that. THIS team.

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 21:27 pm
by spfldan
Melville wrote: 10 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
Better question.
How are the players supposed to win when Super Slo Mo gives them The Marmot to work with?
good one Mel

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 21:33 pm
by JuanAgosto
Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 19:01 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 10 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
You are partially correct. Most managers today do follow the collaborative plan. But they also insert more sway than this pud does. And they lead the clubhouse. This pud cant.
This pud has this team 5 games over .500. Think about that. THIS team.
But you (correctly) stated that he just follows the collective plan. So does he really have them anywhere?

Re: I feel for Oli

Posted: 10 Jul 2025 23:59 pm
by Cardinals4Life
ICCFIM2 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:16 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:40 pm
hotrivets wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:32 pm
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
If that gets him fired, okay.
It would get him fired so that’s a plus. I don’t feel sorry for oli he’s the one who kept the rotation as is and made sure the cards best starting didn’t pitch in either series while the worst starting pitchers did
How was Oli supposed to change that? MO makes the roster moves, so McGreevy was not an option. He is stuck with the 5 he has. He rearranged the rotation to get an extra start in for Gray. That makes the most sense. We can blame MO and the DeWitt's for not eating one of the Mikolas or Fedde contracts and promoting McGreevy. That is not on Oli.
Any manager worth their weight would have some pull and not put up with this. Tony La Russa would be jn Mo's office everyday until something was done. Oli? No shot!...unless he's delivering the morning coffee.