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Wow. I'm so excited and happy. I never saw it from this angle. I "push" Army, and Army loves me for it. Thanks, Army.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
Re: Monty Talks New Players & First Full Season
I missed that interview, thanks for posting.
Pretty clear he expects this team to pick up from where it left off last end of season run.
Pretty clear he expects this team to pick up from where it left off last end of season run.
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Im here to help you see the light my fellow Blues fan who shall soon transition over into being an optimistic fan like alot of us.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am Wow. I'm so excited and happy. I never saw it from this angle. I "push" Army, and Army loves me for it. Thanks, Army.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
First things first….
Take a running head start and then proceed to punch yourself in the throat as hard as ya possibly can so that you wont be able to talk for months and will only be able to listen.
Once that task is complete, then head to your nearest Walmart and go up to the heaviest wildabeast shopper sporting multiple Michelin men tires in their gutter region that you can find, and then politely ask them to do approximately 22.5 jumping jacks on your hands to fracture them so you will be unable to type as well as not being able to talk.
Lather, rinse, repeat till you come back as a more appreciative fan with a newfound perspective and a more valid appreciation for the team you claim to like.
Thoughts n prayers, & Get well soon.
LETS DO THIS!
Re: Monty Talks New Players & First Full Season
well thats a great question, FIrst thing is to always make sure your kitchen is clean before you start cooking. Today we will be cooking chicken and veggies.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am Wow. I'm so excited and happy. I never saw it from this angle. I "push" Army, and Army loves me for it. Thanks, Army.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
First set your oven to 350, I like a slightly lower temperature may take longer but the chicken stays moist.
secondly put all your spices on the bottom of a glass cooking pan. Then lay your thawed out chicken breast or thighs into the glass pan. Then put all your spices on top of the chicken. Then get about 1 cup of olive oil and 1 cup of butter and put it into the pans. The butter will keep the chicken moist and bring the flavour out. Leave it set for 1 hour.
Then 30 mins into the chicken set up your steamer and steam Cali flour and broccoli. Season them with what ever your hearts desire. Then when the hour is up take them both off and serve.
Super healthy dinner and you can add hot sauce to your veggies
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Re: Monty Talks New Players & First Full Season
I'm pushing you to be better. You get and will get a lot of insults for awhile either way. but if you change it up, people will genuinely appreciate it.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am Wow. I'm so excited and happy. I never saw it from this angle. I "push" Army, and Army loves me for it. Thanks, Army.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
you yourself know. I mean it's incongruous for you to perceive Carbonneau as a possible star and do the whole top 5 shtick. especially when I first told you about him – I put in the context of what if we drafted a Holloway caliber player in round 1 even if out of the top 5 and used Carbonneau as an example. now you see it with your own eyes. I will also tell you that the 2023 draft was so deep that all the way into the middle of the second it was stocked with first round talent, and we got three of those players and we overdraft our first round position often. The third and fourth rounders that year (Burns, Pekarcik, Stancl) were better than average mid rounders. there is some legit quality on its way here.
You aren't wrong that top talent is needed to win in sports. But we aren't wrong that it's better to win NHL games and then overperform your first round picks than to lose as many as possible so you can covet the idea of a savior player. IMO it's the beauty of the sport - it's the toughest trophy to win because it's a group effort. When people endlessly argue who was more important to the team's success it's always grounded in the knowledge that you need a lot of quality components in key positions and skillsets to do anything glorious. You've got a toolset to improve your team which is signings, trades and draft picks, there are multiple routes to assembling a contender caliber team.
I also think the next Blues star is right under your nose and his name is Dalibor Dvorsky. Thomas-Dvorsky ... this is going to be an elite duo for a few contending years. Dvorsky has a better shot and is more physical, he has a genuine strong chance to be overall as good as Thomas became at the end of this last season. Thomas-Dvorsky as a 1-2 center combo will make the Blues legit. It will take 20 year old Dvorsky til he's probably 22/23 before his game is opening its early peak period. It will be a slow burn with some flashes ... he will be a contributing top 9 forward at first, and then it will all be there and the Blues will win a ton of regular season games as that leveling up occurs. When your third line suddenly starts producing at a first line pace because your young blue chip center is turning on the jets and playing well defensively is when you're suddenly sitting atop the division standings and looking legit up front.
So a lot actually does depend on what Mailloux is going to become. We aren't sure right now, there is a range of possibility. If you look by position and the youth in the org (bolded players have "made" the roster():
LW - Holloway (2020, 14th), Neighbours (2020, 26th), Stenberg (2023, 25th), Stancl (2023, 106th), Pekarcik (2023, 76th)
C - Dvorsky (2023, 10th), Dean (2021, 32d), Kaskimaki (2022, 73d), Korotky (2024, 211th I see you MN)
RW - Snuggerud (2022, 23d), Carbonneau (2025, 19th)
LHD - Broberg (2019, 8th), Lindstein (2023, 29th), Burns (2023, 74th), Fischer (2024, 56th), Ralph (2024, 48th)
RHD - Mailloux (2021, 31st), Jiricek (2024, 16th)
I'm not listing a swath of others who as of now would need a big leap to be an impact NHL player
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Re: Monty Talks New Players & First Full Season
Wow. Discussion. This may help me. We'll see....seattleblue wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 12:25 pmI'm pushing you to be better. You get and will get a lot of insults for awhile either way. but if you change it up, people will genuinely appreciate it.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am Wow. I'm so excited and happy. I never saw it from this angle. I "push" Army, and Army loves me for it. Thanks, Army.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
you yourself know. I mean it's incongruous for you to perceive Carbonneau as a possible star and do the whole top 5 shtick. especially when I first told you about him – I put in the context of what if we drafted a Holloway caliber player in round 1 even if out of the top 5 and used Carbonneau as an example. now you see it with your own eyes. I will also tell you that the 2023 draft was so deep that all the way into the middle of the second it was stocked with first round talent, and we got three of those players and we overdraft our first round position often. The third and fourth rounders that year (Burns, Pekarcik, Stancl) were better than average mid rounders. there is some legit quality on its way here.
You aren't wrong that top talent is needed to win in sports. But we aren't wrong that it's better to win NHL games and then overperform your first round picks than to lose as many as possible so you can covet the idea of a savior player. IMO it's the beauty of the sport - it's the toughest trophy to win because it's a group effort. When people endlessly argue who was more important to the team's success it's always grounded in the knowledge that you need a lot of quality components in key positions and skillsets to do anything glorious. You've got a toolset to improve your team which is signings, trades and draft picks, there are multiple routes to assembling a contender caliber team.
I also think the next Blues star is right under your nose and his name is Dalibor Dvorsky. Thomas-Dvorsky ... this is going to be an elite duo for a few contending years. Dvorsky has a better shot and is more physical, he has a genuine strong chance to be overall as good as Thomas became at the end of this last season. Thomas-Dvorsky as a 1-2 center combo will make the Blues legit. It will take 20 year old Dvorsky til he's probably 22/23 before his game is opening its early peak period. It will be a slow burn with some flashes ... he will be a contributing top 9 forward at first, and then it will all be there and the Blues will win a ton of regular season games as that leveling up occurs. When your third line suddenly starts producing at a first line pace because your young blue chip center is turning on the jets and playing well defensively is when you're suddenly sitting atop the division standings and looking legit up front.
So a lot actually does depend on what Mailloux is going to become. We aren't sure right now, there is a range of possibility. If you look by position and the youth in the org (bolded players have "made" the roster():
LW - Holloway (2020, 14th), Neighbours (2020, 26th), Stenberg (2023, 25th), Stancl (2023, 106th), Pekarcik (2023, 76th)
C - Dvorsky (2023, 10th), Dean (2021, 32d), Kaskimaki (2022, 73d), Korotky (2024, 211th I see you MN)
RW - Snuggerud (2022, 23d), Carbonneau (2025, 19th)
LHD - Broberg (2019, 8th), Lindstein (2023, 29th), Burns (2023, 74th), Fischer (2024, 56th), Ralph (2024, 48th)
RHD - Mailloux (2021, 31st), Jiricek (2024, 16th)
I'm not listing a swath of others who as of now would need a big leap to be an impact NHL player
First, I have never said that the Blues should purposefully lose games to gain a TOP5 pick. I've never even thought that. For the sake of "getting better", let's not put words in other's mouths.
The Blues should obtain their TOP5 picks the way every other NHL team has done it. How exactly? Instead of bringing in the Fowler's and the Faksa's, they should promote their PROSPECTS--Sink or Swim. Fowler and Faksa will be LONG RETIRED when the Blues return to the CUP. To add temporary veterans like serves only 1 purpose: Win a few more games in the current year--spoiling our draft position. He utilizes hungry veterans willing to die to earn a few more bucks before they hang up the skates.
So let's discuss this point...
Should the Blues play their prospects or bring in short-term veteran rentals with very minimal remaining years? This ONE DECISION by Army/Blues is the biggest reason why the Blues will never get a TOP5 pick IMO.
Let's now see if we all get better from pushing the discussion a bit further than the typical mantra... "ASOGG wants us to TANK".
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So you believe in promoting youth which is clearly 2-4 years away just to get them experience at the NHL level.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 12:59 pmWow. Discussion. This may help me. We'll see....seattleblue wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 12:25 pmI'm pushing you to be better. You get and will get a lot of insults for awhile either way. but if you change it up, people will genuinely appreciate it.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am Wow. I'm so excited and happy. I never saw it from this angle. I "push" Army, and Army loves me for it. Thanks, Army.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
you yourself know. I mean it's incongruous for you to perceive Carbonneau as a possible star and do the whole top 5 shtick. especially when I first told you about him – I put in the context of what if we drafted a Holloway caliber player in round 1 even if out of the top 5 and used Carbonneau as an example. now you see it with your own eyes. I will also tell you that the 2023 draft was so deep that all the way into the middle of the second it was stocked with first round talent, and we got three of those players and we overdraft our first round position often. The third and fourth rounders that year (Burns, Pekarcik, Stancl) were better than average mid rounders. there is some legit quality on its way here.
You aren't wrong that top talent is needed to win in sports. But we aren't wrong that it's better to win NHL games and then overperform your first round picks than to lose as many as possible so you can covet the idea of a savior player. IMO it's the beauty of the sport - it's the toughest trophy to win because it's a group effort. When people endlessly argue who was more important to the team's success it's always grounded in the knowledge that you need a lot of quality components in key positions and skillsets to do anything glorious. You've got a toolset to improve your team which is signings, trades and draft picks, there are multiple routes to assembling a contender caliber team.
I also think the next Blues star is right under your nose and his name is Dalibor Dvorsky. Thomas-Dvorsky ... this is going to be an elite duo for a few contending years. Dvorsky has a better shot and is more physical, he has a genuine strong chance to be overall as good as Thomas became at the end of this last season. Thomas-Dvorsky as a 1-2 center combo will make the Blues legit. It will take 20 year old Dvorsky til he's probably 22/23 before his game is opening its early peak period. It will be a slow burn with some flashes ... he will be a contributing top 9 forward at first, and then it will all be there and the Blues will win a ton of regular season games as that leveling up occurs. When your third line suddenly starts producing at a first line pace because your young blue chip center is turning on the jets and playing well defensively is when you're suddenly sitting atop the division standings and looking legit up front.
So a lot actually does depend on what Mailloux is going to become. We aren't sure right now, there is a range of possibility. If you look by position and the youth in the org (bolded players have "made" the roster():
LW - Holloway (2020, 14th), Neighbours (2020, 26th), Stenberg (2023, 25th), Stancl (2023, 106th), Pekarcik (2023, 76th)
C - Dvorsky (2023, 10th), Dean (2021, 32d), Kaskimaki (2022, 73d), Korotky (2024, 211th I see you MN)
RW - Snuggerud (2022, 23d), Carbonneau (2025, 19th)
LHD - Broberg (2019, 8th), Lindstein (2023, 29th), Burns (2023, 74th), Fischer (2024, 56th), Ralph (2024, 48th)
RHD - Mailloux (2021, 31st), Jiricek (2024, 16th)
I'm not listing a swath of others who as of now would need a big leap to be an impact NHL player
First, I have never said that the Blues should purposefully lose games to gain a TOP5 pick. I've never even thought that. For the sake of "getting better", let's not put words in other's mouths.
The Blues should obtain their TOP5 picks the way every other NHL team has done it. How exactly? Instead of bringing in the Fowler's and the Faksa's, they should promote their PROSPECTS--Sink or Swim. Fowler and Faksa will be LONG RETIRED when the Blues return to the CUP. To add temporary veterans like serves only 1 purpose: Win a few more games in the current year--spoiling our draft position. He utilizes hungry veterans willing to die to earn a few more bucks before they hang up the skates.
So let's discuss this point...
Should the Blues play their prospects or bring in short-term veteran rentals with very minimal remaining years? This ONE DECISION by Army/Blues is the biggest reason why the Blues will never get a TOP5 pick IMO.
Let's now see if we all get better from pushing the discussion a bit further than the typical mantra... "ASOGG wants us to TANK".
Seems like a risky proposition to me...it could ruin the prospect by putting them in way over their heads.
Also, by doing that, what message are you sending to the veteran players that you are obviously pissing away the season before it even begins?
Sounds to me like you risk losing your vets in the room as well....
So not signing serviceable players and playing young players way too early doesn't really do anyone any good.
If I'm a vet and my front office was making me play with kids that are obviously in over their heads...and not bringing in help...I want out of that organization as soon as possible.
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No. Assume that I'm a little smarter than that... I never said promote someone ahead of schedule.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 13:17 pmSo you believe in promoting youth which is clearly 2-4 years away just to get them experience at the NHL level.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am
Wow. Discussion. This may help me. We'll see....
First, I have never said that the Blues should purposefully lose games to gain a TOP5 pick. I've never even thought that. For the sake of "getting better", let's not put words in other's mouths.
The Blues should obtain their TOP5 picks the way every other NHL team has done it. How exactly? Instead of bringing in the Fowler's and the Faksa's, they should promote their PROSPECTS--Sink or Swim. Fowler and Faksa will be LONG RETIRED when the Blues return to the CUP. To add temporary veterans like serves only 1 purpose: Win a few more games in the current year--spoiling our draft position. He utilizes hungry veterans willing to die to earn a few more bucks before they hang up the skates.
So let's discuss this point...
Should the Blues play their prospects or bring in short-term veteran rentals with very minimal remaining years? This ONE DECISION by Army/Blues is the biggest reason why the Blues will never get a TOP5 pick IMO.
Let's now see if we all get better from pushing the discussion a bit further than the typical mantra... "ASOGG wants us to TANK".
Seems like a risky proposition to me...it could ruin the prospect by putting them in way over their heads.
Also, by doing that, what message are you sending to the veteran players that you are obviously pissing away the season before it even begins?
Sounds to me like you risk losing your vets in the room as well....
So not signing serviceable players and playing young players way too early doesn't really do anyone any good.
If I'm a vet and my front office was making me play with kids that are obviously in over their heads...and not bringing in help...I want out of that organization as soon as possible.
The Blues just signed Bjugstad, age 32. He has ZERO CHANCE of being with the team when we return to the Finals. Are there no Centers in AHL Springfield who deserve a chance? Peca? Are they all too young?
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It's funny that it doesn't realize moving out vets and playing kids is exactly how you tank
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"First, I have never said that the Blues should purposefully lose games to gain a TOP5 pick. I've never even thought that. For the sake of "getting better", let's not put words in other's mouths."...STOP RIGHT THERE!a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 12:59 pmWow. Discussion. This may help me. We'll see....seattleblue wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 12:25 pmI'm pushing you to be better. You get and will get a lot of insults for awhile either way. but if you change it up, people will genuinely appreciate it.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am Wow. I'm so excited and happy. I never saw it from this angle. I "push" Army, and Army loves me for it. Thanks, Army.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
you yourself know. I mean it's incongruous for you to perceive Carbonneau as a possible star and do the whole top 5 shtick. especially when I first told you about him – I put in the context of what if we drafted a Holloway caliber player in round 1 even if out of the top 5 and used Carbonneau as an example. now you see it with your own eyes. I will also tell you that the 2023 draft was so deep that all the way into the middle of the second it was stocked with first round talent, and we got three of those players and we overdraft our first round position often. The third and fourth rounders that year (Burns, Pekarcik, Stancl) were better than average mid rounders. there is some legit quality on its way here.
You aren't wrong that top talent is needed to win in sports. But we aren't wrong that it's better to win NHL games and then overperform your first round picks than to lose as many as possible so you can covet the idea of a savior player. IMO it's the beauty of the sport - it's the toughest trophy to win because it's a group effort. When people endlessly argue who was more important to the team's success it's always grounded in the knowledge that you need a lot of quality components in key positions and skillsets to do anything glorious. You've got a toolset to improve your team which is signings, trades and draft picks, there are multiple routes to assembling a contender caliber team.
I also think the next Blues star is right under your nose and his name is Dalibor Dvorsky. Thomas-Dvorsky ... this is going to be an elite duo for a few contending years. Dvorsky has a better shot and is more physical, he has a genuine strong chance to be overall as good as Thomas became at the end of this last season. Thomas-Dvorsky as a 1-2 center combo will make the Blues legit. It will take 20 year old Dvorsky til he's probably 22/23 before his game is opening its early peak period. It will be a slow burn with some flashes ... he will be a contributing top 9 forward at first, and then it will all be there and the Blues will win a ton of regular season games as that leveling up occurs. When your third line suddenly starts producing at a first line pace because your young blue chip center is turning on the jets and playing well defensively is when you're suddenly sitting atop the division standings and looking legit up front.
So a lot actually does depend on what Mailloux is going to become. We aren't sure right now, there is a range of possibility. If you look by position and the youth in the org (bolded players have "made" the roster():
LW - Holloway (2020, 14th), Neighbours (2020, 26th), Stenberg (2023, 25th), Stancl (2023, 106th), Pekarcik (2023, 76th)
C - Dvorsky (2023, 10th), Dean (2021, 32d), Kaskimaki (2022, 73d), Korotky (2024, 211th I see you MN)
RW - Snuggerud (2022, 23d), Carbonneau (2025, 19th)
LHD - Broberg (2019, 8th), Lindstein (2023, 29th), Burns (2023, 74th), Fischer (2024, 56th), Ralph (2024, 48th)
RHD - Mailloux (2021, 31st), Jiricek (2024, 16th)
I'm not listing a swath of others who as of now would need a big leap to be an impact NHL player
First, I have never said that the Blues should purposefully lose games to gain a TOP5 pick. I've never even thought that. For the sake of "getting better", let's not put words in other's mouths.
The Blues should obtain their TOP5 picks the way every other NHL team has done it. How exactly? Instead of bringing in the Fowler's and the Faksa's, they should promote their PROSPECTS--Sink or Swim. Fowler and Faksa will be LONG RETIRED when the Blues return to the CUP. To add temporary veterans like serves only 1 purpose: Win a few more games in the current year--spoiling our draft position. He utilizes hungry veterans willing to die to earn a few more bucks before they hang up the skates.
So let's discuss this point...
Should the Blues play their prospects or bring in short-term veteran rentals with very minimal remaining years? This ONE DECISION by Army/Blues is the biggest reason why the Blues will never get a TOP5 pick IMO.
Let's now see if we all get better from pushing the discussion a bit further than the typical mantra... "ASOGG wants us to TANK".
The heck you haven't!! Countless times in countless threads you have sent that "don't try so you can draft top 5" message in so many words, too many words. AND you constantly twist the narrative and purposely misinterpret other people's message, with typically something akin to, "So what you are saying is...blah, blah, blah."
Zip it up.
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It's funny that THEY don't realize that playing kids is how we found Binnington, and how we won a CUP.
Tanking is purposefully losing games. Playing prospects is not letting 3 easy goals in.
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Prove it, OLD GOAT. I've never ever said those words. Not ever. Not once. I challenge you to find me saying those words.Old_Goat wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 13:33 pm"First, I have never said that the Blues should purposefully lose games to gain a TOP5 pick. I've never even thought that. For the sake of "getting better", let's not put words in other's mouths."...STOP RIGHT THERE!a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 12:59 pmWow. Discussion. This may help me. We'll see....seattleblue wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 12:25 pmI'm pushing you to be better. You get and will get a lot of insults for awhile either way. but if you change it up, people will genuinely appreciate it.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am Wow. I'm so excited and happy. I never saw it from this angle. I "push" Army, and Army loves me for it. Thanks, Army.
My only question is...
Who is going to "push ASOGG to be better"? All I get is food talk babble back at me.
you yourself know. I mean it's incongruous for you to perceive Carbonneau as a possible star and do the whole top 5 shtick. especially when I first told you about him – I put in the context of what if we drafted a Holloway caliber player in round 1 even if out of the top 5 and used Carbonneau as an example. now you see it with your own eyes. I will also tell you that the 2023 draft was so deep that all the way into the middle of the second it was stocked with first round talent, and we got three of those players and we overdraft our first round position often. The third and fourth rounders that year (Burns, Pekarcik, Stancl) were better than average mid rounders. there is some legit quality on its way here.
You aren't wrong that top talent is needed to win in sports. But we aren't wrong that it's better to win NHL games and then overperform your first round picks than to lose as many as possible so you can covet the idea of a savior player. IMO it's the beauty of the sport - it's the toughest trophy to win because it's a group effort. When people endlessly argue who was more important to the team's success it's always grounded in the knowledge that you need a lot of quality components in key positions and skillsets to do anything glorious. You've got a toolset to improve your team which is signings, trades and draft picks, there are multiple routes to assembling a contender caliber team.
I also think the next Blues star is right under your nose and his name is Dalibor Dvorsky. Thomas-Dvorsky ... this is going to be an elite duo for a few contending years. Dvorsky has a better shot and is more physical, he has a genuine strong chance to be overall as good as Thomas became at the end of this last season. Thomas-Dvorsky as a 1-2 center combo will make the Blues legit. It will take 20 year old Dvorsky til he's probably 22/23 before his game is opening its early peak period. It will be a slow burn with some flashes ... he will be a contributing top 9 forward at first, and then it will all be there and the Blues will win a ton of regular season games as that leveling up occurs. When your third line suddenly starts producing at a first line pace because your young blue chip center is turning on the jets and playing well defensively is when you're suddenly sitting atop the division standings and looking legit up front.
So a lot actually does depend on what Mailloux is going to become. We aren't sure right now, there is a range of possibility. If you look by position and the youth in the org (bolded players have "made" the roster():
LW - Holloway (2020, 14th), Neighbours (2020, 26th), Stenberg (2023, 25th), Stancl (2023, 106th), Pekarcik (2023, 76th)
C - Dvorsky (2023, 10th), Dean (2021, 32d), Kaskimaki (2022, 73d), Korotky (2024, 211th I see you MN)
RW - Snuggerud (2022, 23d), Carbonneau (2025, 19th)
LHD - Broberg (2019, 8th), Lindstein (2023, 29th), Burns (2023, 74th), Fischer (2024, 56th), Ralph (2024, 48th)
RHD - Mailloux (2021, 31st), Jiricek (2024, 16th)
I'm not listing a swath of others who as of now would need a big leap to be an impact NHL player
First, I have never said that the Blues should purposefully lose games to gain a TOP5 pick. I've never even thought that. For the sake of "getting better", let's not put words in other's mouths.
The Blues should obtain their TOP5 picks the way every other NHL team has done it. How exactly? Instead of bringing in the Fowler's and the Faksa's, they should promote their PROSPECTS--Sink or Swim. Fowler and Faksa will be LONG RETIRED when the Blues return to the CUP. To add temporary veterans like serves only 1 purpose: Win a few more games in the current year--spoiling our draft position. He utilizes hungry veterans willing to die to earn a few more bucks before they hang up the skates.
So let's discuss this point...
Should the Blues play their prospects or bring in short-term veteran rentals with very minimal remaining years? This ONE DECISION by Army/Blues is the biggest reason why the Blues will never get a TOP5 pick IMO.
Let's now see if we all get better from pushing the discussion a bit further than the typical mantra... "ASOGG wants us to TANK".
The heck you haven't!! Countless times in countless threads you have sent that "don't try so you can draft top 5" message in so many words, too many words. AND you constantly twist the narrative and purposely misinterpret other people's message, with typically something akin to, "So what you are saying is...blah, blah, blah."
Zip it up.
What I have said from the beginning... "Almost every team has at least 1 TOP5 pick. The Blues should do what those teams have done." Do you think teams "throw games on purpose"? I don't think that.
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Re: Monty Talks New Players & First Full Season
Peca is essentially one year younger than Bjugstad. Currently they are both 32.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 13:28 pmNo. Assume that I'm a little smarter than that... I never said promote someone ahead of schedule.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 13:17 pmSo you believe in promoting youth which is clearly 2-4 years away just to get them experience at the NHL level.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 11:41 am
Wow. Discussion. This may help me. We'll see....
First, I have never said that the Blues should purposefully lose games to gain a TOP5 pick. I've never even thought that. For the sake of "getting better", let's not put words in other's mouths.
The Blues should obtain their TOP5 picks the way every other NHL team has done it. How exactly? Instead of bringing in the Fowler's and the Faksa's, they should promote their PROSPECTS--Sink or Swim. Fowler and Faksa will be LONG RETIRED when the Blues return to the CUP. To add temporary veterans like serves only 1 purpose: Win a few more games in the current year--spoiling our draft position. He utilizes hungry veterans willing to die to earn a few more bucks before they hang up the skates.
So let's discuss this point...
Should the Blues play their prospects or bring in short-term veteran rentals with very minimal remaining years? This ONE DECISION by Army/Blues is the biggest reason why the Blues will never get a TOP5 pick IMO.
Let's now see if we all get better from pushing the discussion a bit further than the typical mantra... "ASOGG wants us to TANK".
Seems like a risky proposition to me...it could ruin the prospect by putting them in way over their heads.
Also, by doing that, what message are you sending to the veteran players that you are obviously pissing away the season before it even begins?
Sounds to me like you risk losing your vets in the room as well....
So not signing serviceable players and playing young players way too early doesn't really do anyone any good.
If I'm a vet and my front office was making me play with kids that are obviously in over their heads...and not bringing in help...I want out of that organization as soon as possible.
The Blues just signed Bjugstad, age 32. He has ZERO CHANCE of being with the team when we return to the Finals. Are there no Centers in AHL Springfield who deserve a chance? Peca? Are they all too young?
Re: Monty Talks New Players & First Full Season
Binnington was 25 years old. Not a kid.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 13:33 pmIt's funny that THEY don't realize that playing kids is how we found Binnington, and how we won a CUP.
Tanking is purposefully losing games. Playing prospects is not letting 3 easy goals in.