The CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION....

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The CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION....

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...as I advised during spring training, was to release Mikolas or ban him to mop up duties at deep end of the bullpen and insert McGreevy into the rotation.
I correctly analyzed and emphasized that the defining difference between healthy organizations and toxic organization is the ability and willingness to make the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
The Cardinals instead opted to make a decision based contract dollars and it has badly backfired (just as happened with Wainwright and Molina when the team made non-baseball decisions).
What is done is done - but it is not too late to get it right.
It is long past time for the team to do exactly as I was first to rightly understand and advise.
And it would be extremely beneficial to the team in so many ways.
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Wainwright was just as bad in his final year….they didn’t bounce him…

Cards seem to love old, washed up players.
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It’s just another example of the DeWitts not willing to do whatever it takes to win. Do they really want to Win? Of course they do, just under certain conditions and parameters. Only a very few fans expect them to spend like LA and the NY teams, but there is happy medium somewhere in there, and they refuse to even go there. They started off the season with really no intentions of completing, only to see what they have. They see no reason to change now, however, by keeping Mikolas and others on the payroll over McGreevy, and others they are double speaking, and just spinning their wheels.
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Melville wrote: 04 Jul 2025 20:41 pm ...as I advised during spring training, was to release Mikolas or ban him to mop up duties at deep end of the bullpen and insert McGreevy into the rotation.
I correctly analyzed and emphasized that the defining difference between healthy organizations and toxic organization is the ability and willingness to make the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
The Cardinals instead opted to make a decision based contract dollars and it has badly backfired (just as happened with Wainwright and Molina when the team made non-baseball decisions).
What is done is done - but it is not too late to get it right.
It is long past time for the team to do exactly as I was first to rightly understand and advise.
And it would be extremely beneficial to the team in so many ways.
And that would have been the incorrect baseball decision just the dumbest. He was 4-2 coming into June including 3-0 with a 3.08 ERA in may while mcgreevy was very valuable coming up for spot starts when a 6th starter was needed. Now yes he should be dumped but before June he was very serviceable
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 23:22 pm
Melville wrote: 04 Jul 2025 20:41 pm ...as I advised during spring training, was to release Mikolas or ban him to mop up duties at deep end of the bullpen and insert McGreevy into the rotation.
I correctly analyzed and emphasized that the defining difference between healthy organizations and toxic organization is the ability and willingness to make the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
The Cardinals instead opted to make a decision based contract dollars and it has badly backfired (just as happened with Wainwright and Molina when the team made non-baseball decisions).
What is done is done - but it is not too late to get it right.
It is long past time for the team to do exactly as I was first to rightly understand and advise.
And it would be extremely beneficial to the team in so many ways.
And that would have been the incorrect baseball decision just the dumbest. He was 4-2 coming into June including 3-0 with a 3.08 ERA in may while mcgreevy was very valuable coming up for spot starts when a 6th starter was needed. Now yes he should be dumped but before June he was very serviceable
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Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 23:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 23:22 pm
Melville wrote: 04 Jul 2025 20:41 pm ...as I advised during spring training, was to release Mikolas or ban him to mop up duties at deep end of the bullpen and insert McGreevy into the rotation.
I correctly analyzed and emphasized that the defining difference between healthy organizations and toxic organization is the ability and willingness to make the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
The Cardinals instead opted to make a decision based contract dollars and it has badly backfired (just as happened with Wainwright and Molina when the team made non-baseball decisions).
What is done is done - but it is not too late to get it right.
It is long past time for the team to do exactly as I was first to rightly understand and advise.
And it would be extremely beneficial to the team in so many ways.
And that would have been the incorrect baseball decision just the dumbest. He was 4-2 coming into June including 3-0 with a 3.08 ERA in may while mcgreevy was very valuable coming up for spot starts when a 6th starter was needed. Now yes he should be dumped but before June he was very serviceable
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Also the team won 8 of his last 11 starts
Coming into today’s game I’m not saying they should keep him but they did get more than we could have hoped for coming into June
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45s wrote: 04 Jul 2025 21:18 pm Wainwright was just as bad in his final year….they didn’t bounce him…

Cards seem to love old, washed up players.
Not to make excuses for Wainwright, because he was terrible, but it's not apples to apples.

1.) Wainwright was a franchise legend. Mikolas isn't. He had one good season. He's basically Kent Bottenfield.
2.) It was pretty early on that we figured out that we weren't going to contend anyway and clearly didn't have anyone who was going to perform appreciably better than Wainwright. You could make a case for Pallante, I guess, but that's tenuous at best.
3.) At least Wainwright had a history of keeping his mouth shut. Or at least reasonably backing up his trash talk when he did. Mikolas NEVER has.
4.) Even at his worst, Wainwright had that curveball. The problem was, at the end, it was all he had. Mikolas has a hanging curveball and a belt high, straight, 92mph fastball.

I know I'm hoping against hope. But Mikolas has less than zero business pitching another meaningful game for this team ever again. Today was a major embarrassment. That said, I feel no sympathy for Mikolas. He absolutely deserved to get spanked. My only regret is that we burned a pretty decent reliever in Svanson today. I'd have let the Cubs beat Mikolas until the steering wheel came off. And the engine block, and the tires, and the transmission. It would serve him right for grooving two homers to that punk PCA.
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Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 23:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 23:22 pm
Melville wrote: 04 Jul 2025 20:41 pm ...as I advised during spring training, was to release Mikolas or ban him to mop up duties at deep end of the bullpen and insert McGreevy into the rotation.
I correctly analyzed and emphasized that the defining difference between healthy organizations and toxic organization is the ability and willingness to make the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
The Cardinals instead opted to make a decision based contract dollars and it has badly backfired (just as happened with Wainwright and Molina when the team made non-baseball decisions).
What is done is done - but it is not too late to get it right.
It is long past time for the team to do exactly as I was first to rightly understand and advise.
And it would be extremely beneficial to the team in so many ways.
And that would have been the incorrect baseball decision just the dumbest. He was 4-2 coming into June including 3-0 with a 3.08 ERA in may while mcgreevy was very valuable coming up for spot starts when a 6th starter was needed. Now yes he should be dumped but before June he was very serviceable
“I correctly analyzed”
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“As I was first to rightly understand”

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Many of us have been calling for Mikolas to be gone for more than a year.

He needs to be DFA'd

Mo won't and that's why Mo has become a pitiful POBO. :oops:
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Melville wrote: 04 Jul 2025 20:41 pm ...as I advised during spring training, was to release Mikolas or ban him to mop up duties at deep end of the bullpen and insert McGreevy into the rotation.
I correctly analyzed and emphasized that the defining difference between healthy organizations and toxic organization is the ability and willingness to make the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
The Cardinals instead opted to make a decision based contract dollars and it has badly backfired (just as happened with Wainwright and Molina when the team made non-baseball decisions).
What is done is done - but it is not too late to get it right.
It is long past time for the team to do exactly as I was first to rightly understand and advise.
And it would be extremely beneficial to the team in so many ways.
The correct forum user’s decision is to put you on ignore, when you continue this ego schtick.
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Strummer Jones wrote: 05 Jul 2025 00:52 am
45s wrote: 04 Jul 2025 21:18 pm Wainwright was just as bad in his final year….they didn’t bounce him…

Cards seem to love old, washed up players.
Not to make excuses for Wainwright, because he was terrible, but it's not apples to apples.

1.) Wainwright was a franchise legend. Mikolas isn't. He had one good season. He's basically Kent Bottenfield.
2.) It was pretty early on that we figured out that we weren't going to contend anyway and clearly didn't have anyone who was going to perform appreciably better than Wainwright. You could make a case for Pallante, I guess, but that's tenuous at best.
3.) At least Wainwright had a history of keeping his mouth shut. Or at least reasonably backing up his trash talk when he did. Mikolas NEVER has.
4.) Even at his worst, Wainwright had that curveball. The problem was, at the end, it was all he had. Mikolas has a hanging curveball and a belt high, straight, 92mph fastball.

I know I'm hoping against hope. But Mikolas has less than zero business pitching another meaningful game for this team ever again. Today was a major embarrassment. That said, I feel no sympathy for Mikolas. He absolutely deserved to get spanked. My only regret is that we burned a pretty decent reliever in Svanson today. I'd have let the Cubs beat Mikolas until the steering wheel came off. And the engine block, and the tires, and the transmission. It would serve him right for grooving two homers to that punk PCA.
You prove my point.
So many times over recent seasons the organization intentionally refused to make the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
And time after time after time it catches up to them.
And it is impossible for it not to.
When an organization makes a decision it knows to be not in the interest or performance and achievement, but instead is based on other factors, it is inevitable that the decision will fail.
Mikolas is but one of many.
His ERA has been 4.78. 5.35, and 5.26 over the past 3 seasons.
He had been gifted with 84 starts.
I challenge anyone to find another starting pitcher who has been gifted with 84 starts in the past 2.5 seasons with an ERA as bad.
Again, it was easy to see this trainwreck coming.
In fact, I did.
When an organization lacks leadership, it will continue to make the same mistakes repeatedly.
And in the case of the Cardinals, the refusal to make obvious CORRECT BASEBALL DECISIONS is the very core of the problem.
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I’m for firing the owners.
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butsir01 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 08:52 am I’m for firing the owners.
Good luck with that...

Imagine the Cards sell...and then move them! 8O

I'd laugh my (donkey) off
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 08:54 am
butsir01 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 08:52 am I’m for firing the owners.
Good luck with that...

Imagine the Cards sell...and then move them! 8O

I'd laugh my (donkey) off
So would I. Fork ‘em. A pox on all thirty of their houses.
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 08:10 am
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 23:31 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 23:22 pm
Melville wrote: 04 Jul 2025 20:41 pm ...as I advised during spring training, was to release Mikolas or ban him to mop up duties at deep end of the bullpen and insert McGreevy into the rotation.
I correctly analyzed and emphasized that the defining difference between healthy organizations and toxic organization is the ability and willingness to make the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
The Cardinals instead opted to make a decision based contract dollars and it has badly backfired (just as happened with Wainwright and Molina when the team made non-baseball decisions).
What is done is done - but it is not too late to get it right.
It is long past time for the team to do exactly as I was first to rightly understand and advise.
And it would be extremely beneficial to the team in so many ways.
And that would have been the incorrect baseball decision just the dumbest. He was 4-2 coming into June including 3-0 with a 3.08 ERA in may while mcgreevy was very valuable coming up for spot starts when a 6th starter was needed. Now yes he should be dumped but before June he was very serviceable
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