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Shady wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 23:14 pm They draft Seth Hernandez with the fifth pick and he turns out to be as good at 23 as Misiorowski was for the Brewers tonight.

StlMike1969 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 05:39 am The more I research it the more I believe no high schooler should be taken in the first round. Maybe even the 2nd. College pitchers or college bat that has used wooden bats to succeed makes the most sense to me. A kid can excel in high school all day long, but struggle mightily on the college or pro stage with the increased talent and exposure. Not to mention excelling at any pro sport takes a dedication and commitment few are capable of. It means forgoing your prime years as a young man to enjoy wine, women and song and to stay committed to the long term goal. The incredibly small percentage of players that are drafted at the high school level and make it as a player with the same team, just doe not justify the high picks. Pitching is the name of the game. Guys with tools can be taught to hit better with good coaching. Pitchers though take time, coaching and a whole lot of luck their arms hold up to todays standards. You have to go through 10 to get one good one it seems like. They need to stick to the college guys in the first couple of rounds in my opinion.

Shady wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:49 am

StlMike1969 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 05:39 am The more I research it the more I believe no high schooler should be taken in the first round. Maybe even the 2nd. College pitchers or college bat that has used wooden bats to succeed makes the most sense to me. A kid can excel in high school all day long, but struggle mightily on the college or pro stage with the increased talent and exposure. Not to mention excelling at any pro sport takes a dedication and commitment few are capable of. It means forgoing your prime years as a young man to enjoy wine, women and song and to stay committed to the long term goal. The incredibly small percentage of players that are drafted at the high school level and make it as a player with the same team, just doe not justify the high picks. Pitching is the name of the game. Guys with tools can be taught to hit better with good coaching. Pitchers though take time, coaching and a whole lot of luck their arms hold up to todays standards. You have to go through 10 to get one good one it seems like. They need to stick to the college guys in the first couple of rounds in my opinion.

The problem I see, and I could be wrong, is the top rated collegiate pitchers don't have Hernandez's ceiling. The Cardinals need a true difference-maker starting pitcher.

Shady wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:49 am

StlMike1969 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 05:39 am The more I research it the more I believe no high schooler should be taken in the first round. Maybe even the 2nd. College pitchers or college bat that has used wooden bats to succeed makes the most sense to me. A kid can excel in high school all day long, but struggle mightily on the college or pro stage with the increased talent and exposure. Not to mention excelling at any pro sport takes a dedication and commitment few are capable of. It means forgoing your prime years as a young man to enjoy wine, women and song and to stay committed to the long term goal. The incredibly small percentage of players that are drafted at the high school level and make it as a player with the same team, just doe not justify the high picks. Pitching is the name of the game. Guys with tools can be taught to hit better with good coaching. Pitchers though take time, coaching and a whole lot of luck their arms hold up to todays standards. You have to go through 10 to get one good one it seems like. They need to stick to the college guys in the first couple of rounds in my opinion.

The problem I see, and I could be wrong, is the top rated collegiate pitchers don't have Hernandez's ceiling. The Cardinals need a true difference-maker starting pitcher.

Cranny wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:54 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 09:49 am

StlMike1969 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 05:39 am The more I research it the more I believe no high schooler should be taken in the first round. Maybe even the 2nd. College pitchers or college bat that has used wooden bats to succeed makes the most sense to me. A kid can excel in high school all day long, but struggle mightily on the college or pro stage with the increased talent and exposure. Not to mention excelling at any pro sport takes a dedication and commitment few are capable of. It means forgoing your prime years as a young man to enjoy wine, women and song and to stay committed to the long term goal. The incredibly small percentage of players that are drafted at the high school level and make it as a player with the same team, just doe not justify the high picks. Pitching is the name of the game. Guys with tools can be taught to hit better with good coaching. Pitchers though take time, coaching and a whole lot of luck their arms hold up to todays standards. You have to go through 10 to get one good one it seems like. They need to stick to the college guys in the first couple of rounds in my opinion.

The problem I see, and I could be wrong, is the top rated collegiate pitchers don't have Hernandez's ceiling. The Cardinals need a true difference-maker starting pitcher.

Hernandez is unproven against any bats besides high school bats.