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Disgusting effort…

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm
by Baseball Dude
Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
And five on the season which is already one more than all of last season and it’s not even the all star break. I said it all off season his value will never be higher trade him

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 23:46 pm
by JuanAgosto
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
And five on the season which is already one more than all of last season and it’s not even the all star break. I said it all off season his value will never be higher trade him
That would've required offseason work by Mo. We all know his winter efforts revolve around signing a couple guys he doesn't have to compete against other teams for. What was the last transaction that mope made at the Winter Meetings?

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 01:43 am
by Whatashame
It’s like there is zero vision for this team. They have cut payroll. They let contracts expire. They signed one reliever to a minimal contract. We recycle the same bullpen arms that come up here, fail, are sent back down only to be recalled again. We lack outfield production and our answer to that is Vilade who finally got a hit over the weekend but is 9-62 in his big league career and an OBP around .200 and an OPS under .400. Only God knows what they see in him.

With minimal help this team would be a NLC contender. A couple of bullpen arms and a RH bat to play the outfield. Instead we get Vilade as that OF bat and guys like Roycroft (who was recalled again) Munoz (who has been up and down a couple of times), we’ve seen Svanson, O’Brien just waiting for someone to have success. It certainly is frustrating.

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 07:22 am
by scoutyjones2
JuanAgosto wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:46 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
And five on the season which is already one more than all of last season and it’s not even the all star break. I said it all off season his value will never be higher trade him
That would've required offseason work by Mo. We all know his winter efforts revolve around signing a couple guys he doesn't have to compete against other teams for. What was the last transaction that mope made at the Winter Meetings?
What top relievers were traded in the off-season?

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 08:55 am
by JuanAgosto
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:22 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:46 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
And five on the season which is already one more than all of last season and it’s not even the all star break. I said it all off season his value will never be higher trade him
That would've required offseason work by Mo. We all know his winter efforts revolve around signing a couple guys he doesn't have to compete against other teams for. What was the last transaction that mope made at the Winter Meetings?
What top relievers were traded in the off-season?
Milwaukee traded their's. What difference does it make? The less traded, the more potential return.

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 08:57 am
by moose-and-squirrel
JuanAgosto wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:55 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:22 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:46 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
And five on the season which is already one more than all of last season and it’s not even the all star break. I said it all off season his value will never be higher trade him
That would've required offseason work by Mo. We all know his winter efforts revolve around signing a couple guys he doesn't have to compete against other teams for. What was the last transaction that mope made at the Winter Meetings?
What top relievers were traded in the off-season?
Milwaukee traded their's. What difference does it make? The less traded, the more potential return.
think the point is, there wasn't much of a market for that

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 09:09 am
by illiniriles
How'd he look? I didn't see it. One run saves are really tough. The previous blown save was kind of a fluke, or at least that was what was reported on CT.

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 09:44 am
by Carp4Cy
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
And five on the season which is already one more than all of last season and it’s not even the all star break. I said it all off season his value will never be higher trade him
His value still wasn’t high. Other GMs predicted this and discounted offers.

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 09:52 am
by CCard
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
Pitchers go into slumps too. Who would you rather have pitch the ninth? Maton? He blew the game in extras. If not Helsley then who? :roll:

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 10:42 am
by imetsatchelpaige
illiniriles wrote: 10 Jun 2025 09:09 am How'd he look? I didn't see it. One run saves are really tough. The previous blown save was kind of a fluke, or at least that was what was reported on CT.
He looked like the early version of Nuke Laloosh.
He threw one pitch 5 feet over the batter’s head

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 10:49 am
by illiniriles
Thanks. I think the talent is still there. Hopefully, he'll round back into form. He has to.

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 11:00 am
by OldRed
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 10 Jun 2025 10:42 am
illiniriles wrote: 10 Jun 2025 09:09 am How'd he look? I didn't see it. One run saves are really tough. The previous blown save was kind of a fluke, or at least that was what was reported on CT.
He looked like the early version of Nuke Laloosh.
He threw one pitch 5 feet over the batter’s head
Please don't mention that name.

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 12:23 pm
by JuanAgosto
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:57 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:55 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:22 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:46 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
And five on the season which is already one more than all of last season and it’s not even the all star break. I said it all off season his value will never be higher trade him
That would've required offseason work by Mo. We all know his winter efforts revolve around signing a couple guys he doesn't have to compete against other teams for. What was the last transaction that mope made at the Winter Meetings?
What top relievers were traded in the off-season?
Milwaukee traded their's. What difference does it make? The less traded, the more potential return.
think the point is, there wasn't much of a market for that
Never know unless you try. And we know Mo isn't going to put in the effort.

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 12:27 pm
by RamFan08NY
JuanAgosto wrote: 10 Jun 2025 12:23 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:57 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:55 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:22 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:46 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm Three blown saves in a row for Helsley? Is that right?
And five on the season which is already one more than all of last season and it’s not even the all star break. I said it all off season his value will never be higher trade him
That would've required offseason work by Mo. We all know his winter efforts revolve around signing a couple guys he doesn't have to compete against other teams for. What was the last transaction that mope made at the Winter Meetings?
What top relievers were traded in the off-season?
Milwaukee traded their's. What difference does it make? The less traded, the more potential return.
think the point is, there wasn't much of a market for that
Never know unless you try. And we know Mo isn't going to put in the effort.
Now that's foolish. Just stop making stuff up.

None of us even know if there were discussions with other teams, and if so, what compensation was discussed.

Re: Disgusting effort…

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 12:50 pm
by rockondlouie
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:22 am What top relievers were traded in the off-season?
Devin Williams
Ryan Pressly