This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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I agree he should have been dealt, but he pitched a good inning. Tough luck
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Crawl back in your basement!
You’re obviously a sock/troll that knows nothing.
Cheap infield hit and a blooper to CF.
Then a run on a strikeout.
Take a hike!!!!
Go Cards......winner!!!!!!
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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Cusecards wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:57 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Crawl back in your basement!
You’re obviously a sock/troll that knows nothing.
Cheap infield hit and a blooper to CF.
Then a run on a strikeout.
Take a hike!!!!
Go Cards......winner!!!!!!
I like the guy, but it was a dumb move for the future of the franchise. He’s not getting extended
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Looked ok to me. You can only strike out 3 and he did, unless there is a passed ball on strike three. Still has a lot of value, fluke hits happen.
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:57 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Crawl back in your basement!
You’re obviously a sock/troll that knows nothing.
Cheap infield hit and a blooper to CF.
Then a run on a strikeout.
Take a hike!!!!
Go Cards......winner!!!!!!
I like the guy, but it was a dumb move for the future of the franchise. He’s not getting extended
Sock/Troll speaks!
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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Cards win, and lock up winning the series.
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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Anybody who blames Helsley for that 9th inning knows absolutely nothing about baseball.
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Don't you feel kinda silly? Kim, Ohtani, Betts and Freeman to save one run. Probably the hardest save in baseball. He strikes out 3 guys. They get a hit with a squibber bouncing off 2B.... Score a run on a K. Cards win.
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hugeCardfan wrote: 07 Jun 2025 16:06 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Don't you feel kinda silly? Kim, Ohtani, Betts and Freeman to save one run. Probably the hardest save in baseball. He strikes out 3 guys. They get a hit with a squibber bouncing off 2B.... Score a run on a K. Cards win.
The statement would still correct if Helsley was perfect on the year with an era under 1. But it’s obvious watching that his stuff isn’t the same as last year. It was foolish to not maximize his value when we are not going to be extending him.
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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Legit complaint, but add some substance to the title of your thread.
Please include any offers that they turned down, and from who.
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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Tough crowd!

He struck out the side. Base hit on a simple grounder Winn was waiting on. WP called (ball should've been blocked) on strike 3 allows a run to score.

Maybe RH should've been traded...but...if the Cards hope to have a legit shot at the playoffs, they need him on the team this entire season.
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 16:12 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 07 Jun 2025 16:06 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Don't you feel kinda silly? Kim, Ohtani, Betts and Freeman to save one run. Probably the hardest save in baseball. He strikes out 3 guys. They get a hit with a squibber bouncing off 2B.... Score a run on a K. Cards win.
The statement would still correct if Helsley was perfect on the year with an era under 1. But it’s obvious watching that his stuff isn’t the same as last year. It was foolish to not maximize his value when we are not going to be extending him.
His stuff looked pretty darn good as he was striking out the heart of the Dodgers order.
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If you completely remove Helsley from this bullpen, I think it creates serious problems and the team is nowhere near as good as they've been this season.
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Re: This is why it was irresponsible to not deal Helsley in the offseason

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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Would have been better if Graceffo was currently closing, right?
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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 07 Jun 2025 16:23 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 16:12 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 07 Jun 2025 16:06 pm
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 15:48 pm Another blown save today. His k’s are down, his h/9 is up. Losing almost any value he once had.
Don't you feel kinda silly? Kim, Ohtani, Betts and Freeman to save one run. Probably the hardest save in baseball. He strikes out 3 guys. They get a hit with a squibber bouncing off 2B.... Score a run on a K. Cards win.
The statement would still correct if Helsley was perfect on the year with an era under 1. But it’s obvious watching that his stuff isn’t the same as last year. It was foolish to not maximize his value when we are not going to be extending him.
His stuff looked pretty darn good as he was striking out the heart of the Dodgers order.
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